Jump to content

Urgent Help Needed! 14 mo Poo Machine is on overdrive


  • Please log in to reply
14 replies to this topic

#1 hicoco

Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:49 AM

Help! My 14 mo DD has had numerous poo explosions already this morning (five or six - I've lost count I'm so drugged by their foul smell. sick.gif ) So, I wanted to ask for help in EB land about what (if anything / or everything) could have caused this dire situation...

Her life in the last few days:
  1. Moved to Aldi formula on Sunday 11 November. Was previously on Karicare Gold Toddler (3). I just checked out other EB posts re Aldi formula - some said great, others said it makes their baby chucky. So not sure.
  2. She got sick this Sunday afternoon (18 November.) Very high fever. Grumpy grumpy so and so. Had two doses of 1-5 yo Panadol suspension, then another one yesterday morning.
  3. Yesterday - took her to the doctor who diagnosed yet another ear infection. Prescribed her antibiotics - Amoxil 5ml 3 times a day. She had a dose at lunchtime then one last night.
  4. She ate a very small amount of spag bol and banana custard for dinner.
  5. Doctor also recommended a probiotic so I bought Kids Inner Health probiotic powder. 2.3 gm in apple puree yesterday at lunch, and the same in her weetbix this morning.
  6. Because she is still in a lot of pain with the ear (which will be cut off if she has another ear infection soon ...grrrrr) she had a dose of 1-5 yo Panadol syrup (new bottle, forgot to get the suspension stuff she likes) last night and then one again this morning.
So with everything new that is going on I don't know what has caused the poo explosions. They are all huge poos. The first was all sandy little black spots and took about a million wipes to clean off her bum. The rest still have black sand but have been very very runny. I learnt to my cost not to leave it for one second after she had pooed, otherwise the nappy just doesn't cope.


Could it be the new formula?


Or the AB's?


Or the probiotic?


Or the new Panadol?


Or all or nothing of the above?

She is (finally) asleep now - must be feeling very relaxed - so if it is the formula then I will have to wait until later to go get some more Karicare. But it will be worth it for her to stop being such a poo machine!




#2 JoMarch

Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:17 AM

I think it could be any of those things, but amoxil is definately known for gastro intestinal upset so could be that.  If so maybe see your GP again, but don't stop the ABs unless the GP advises to.  

I agree with the PP that I don't think it would be the new formula, shes been on it for a while now.  And also agree in keeping her well hydrated. I also doubt if its the panadol.  Panadol really is gentle on the stomach.  

Hope shes better soon. original.gif

#3 hicoco

Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:23 AM

Thanks 20% Cooler. Yes I forgot to mention that she also has two big bottom teeth just poking through. So she is in a right state at the moment as you can imagine.

Re the probiotic at the same time as the AB's - I specifically asked the doctor about this. I said 'so I should give it to her when she finishes the AB's?' He said - 'no give it to her at the same time because while the AB's will kill everything (good and bad) the probiotic will give her back the good stuff so her system gets back into shape faster than waiting until she finishes the ABs and then starting the probiotic.'  

I am confused now. I watched the ABC program about autism recently, with the comments that perhaps ABs at a young age may contribute. Not sure what I believe but DD has had ABs a fair few times in her young life due to the ear infections so I wanted her to have a probiotic to counteract the ABs.

She is awake again and I just popped my head in her door. There is A SMELL. Wish me luck...

#4 SnazzyFeral

Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:26 AM

DS (15mths) can get yucky poos if he is under the weather and they can go on for a few days. The black spots could be banana?

#5 Fanny McPhail

Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:28 AM

WARNING TMI COMING UP!

My DS was prone to ear infections as a littlie and had many courses of amoxil. It did affect his bowel movements the poos became a greeny-greyish colour, the consistency was soft to runny sick.gif and the odour was overwhelming . I always put it down to his body trying to expel the infection.

I'm sorry your little one is ill. It is not an easy thing to watch your baby seem so sick. Look after yourself and prepare yourself for being held hostage on the sofa by a clinghy whimpering little one.

#6 Escapin

Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:29 AM

I vote antibiotics too. Plus maybe the probiotic being extra effective? It will probably be over soon, so hopefully you can just ride it out and you have enough clean clothes for your LO (and yourself!).

#7 sne

Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:48 AM

Try giving the probiotics at least an hour away from any dose of antibiotics as the antibiotics kill all microbes including those in the probiotic supplement.  Giving them at least an hour apart allows the probiotic maximum effectiveness.  

Good luck.  My son is on amoxl for ear infections at the moment and it makes his bowel motions really gross and irritate his bottom.

#8 Charri36

Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:01 AM

I'd say the poo explosions are due to the antibiotics.

ph34r.gif my body does it too, it's the infection coming out, the poor little mite, probably has a tummy full of mucus from the ear infection. It's actually a good thing - the poos. Just make sure you keep fluids up - meaning water, you might find dairy including formula makes it worse, I would return to the doctors if you are worried though, you can always make an appointment for tomorrow or the next day and cancel it if need be.

#9 Fanny McPhail

Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:11 AM

QUOTE (hicoco @ 20/11/2012, 10:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not sure what I believe but DD has had ABs a fair few times in her young life due to the ear infections .


Have you asked for a referral to see a ENT, if she is getting repeated ear infections she may need grommits.

My son first visited his ENT at 9 months of age due to repeated ear infections and multiple courses of AB. Our ENT monitored DS for 8 months before deciding that the problem wasn't going to fix itself. I have said this before on EB but grommits have been the best thing I have ever done for my son. Since they were inserted he has not had a single ear infection and it also cleared up some none ear related issues.

Anyway I hope your little one is better soon.


#10 winkywonkeydonkey

Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:23 AM

panadol gives my son nasty runs as it contains sorbitol which can have a laxative effect in some people. But if she never usually has a problem with panadol it probably wouldnt be that.

Poor little thing hope she is better assap

#11 HurryUpAlready

Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:34 AM

Hi OP.

My 9 month DD is on AB's now for a nasty cold and the GP did say that they may cause some diarrhea which is ok (mild case) but if it is a bad case & continues then to let her know.

It sounds like your DD's is pretty nasty. Might be worth a trip back to the GP. Maybe they can change the type if AB to something that won't upset her tummy as much.

Given her multiple ear infections, I'd be going to an ENT as well. Poor little bubba, between her ears, the teeth, her tummy... no wonder she is miserable.  ohmy.gif(

#12 hicoco

Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:52 AM

Thank you all so much for your responses. I have been busy washing the cot, the mattress, the wall, her. You get the idea.

Yes the doctor did discuss grommets, esp because she always has infections in her left ear, occasionally in the right as well, but always in the left. Perhaps she just has one wonky small ear canal on the left? Who knows. But yes if the ABs don't knock this on the head straightaway the doctor will refer me to an ENT.

I will spread the pro and anti biotics out by an hour, thanks sne. And yes, I am keeping her fluids up - don't want her dehydrated on top of everything else. If she gets worse if it back to the doctor we go.

She is asleep again. But now I know what that brings I am a bit scared...

#13 Silly Old Elf

Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:53 AM

Check the warning on the AB. Pretty sure it says to check with GP if diarrhea occurs as it can indicate a potential problem. Other than that I would advise (based on advice and experience) cutting out dairy for a day or so, as this can irritate the bowel.

#14 qak

Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:00 PM

I agree with increasing the time between the ABs and probiotics.

Also I thought if you had black grainy bits in the poo it can indicate a problem caused by the ABs? Why don't you call the chemist & check that, if youwere not given an information leaflet with the medicine.

#15 Crap Napper

Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:09 PM

Not wanting to alarm you, but Black sand type stuff, if it is not kiwi fruit or banana related, can be concerning - something worth getting a medical opinion on, as blood from the GIT can show up in faeces this way. In any case, it is worth a call to the doctor re the diarrhoea-antibiotic association, she might need to be swapped to another script.




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Abbott's childcare changes will 'reduce access and add complexity'

The government's childcare assistance package threatens to confuse and intimidate many parents, experts say.

Be careful what you wish for

Remember that chubby little baby who rocked on all fours? Remember how you wished he would start to crawl? Then remember how you felt once he did?

William Tyrrell's parents plead for information as anniversary looms

As the one-year anniversary of William Tyrrell's disappearance draws near, the missing four-year-old's parents have again pleaded with the public for information that could help bring their son home.

Family sleepovers: a tribute to my 1970s childhood

My memories of those nights in my childhood are all about fun: sleepover excitement, staying up late, watching movies we probably weren't supposed to watch ... freedom.

43 minutes of terror: family's agonising wait for ambulance for toddler

It was terrifying. As the minutes ticked by little Cooper Harrison's parents felt more and more frantic.

What not to say to a new mum

Some phrases just pop out before you really think about them, but there are some things you should try to not say to a new mum.

Mummydesking: the new hotdesking

It is a paradise that only working parents of small children can understand: a place to sit for three hours without any interruptions while someone looks after the kids.

Charlize Theron adopts baby girl

A few months after splitting from Sean Penn, the actress Charlize Theron has adopted a baby girl.

Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg shares painful truth behind wife's pregnancy

Facebook chief executive Mark Zuckerberg has shared a brutally honest truth about pregnancy in the hope it will help others through dark periods.  

Sugary drinks blamed for removal of toddlers' rotten teeth

Children as young as 18 months are having multiple rotten teeth pulled out as parents feed toddlers soft drinks through sipper bottles, and chocolate biscuits and Milo as bedtime treats.

Mum accidentally fake tans baby

Many of us have fallen foul of a bad fake tan or two, but this little guy's started a bit earlier than most.

Does this three-month-old say 'I love you'?

YouTube user Ted Moskalenko was filmed by his wife, Michelle, as his baby son, Ben, engaged in some baby chat.

Kids break out of daycare centre, cross busy highway

Two children broke out of an early childhood centre and wandered across a four-lane road.

Why I'm glad to be an indulgent granny

The phone calls started a couple of weeks ago. At about 5.30 each evening - if I am lucky - I will be greeted by a sweet, excited voice declaring: "'Allo Annie".

Newborn found in toilet at German airport

A newborn baby found abandoned and extremely ill in a bathroom in the Munich airport is doing well.

Is this the worst relationship advice ever published?

You sometimes have to wonder whether relationship/sex advice from magazines is designed to help or humiliate.

How you talk to your baby now can impact social skills later

People used to think that social skills were something kids were born with, not taught.

Three truths about C-section mums

Lately I've been thinking about the caesarean stories and the brave women who birth their children with strength and beauty.

Scientists predict when you should start a family

Scientists have calculated at exactly what age you need to start trying to get pregnant to have the best chance of realising your dream. 

Differently abled child

When 'protecting' a child is really a cover for judgement

Why are people so concerned for this happy child and his mother?

Get your FREE Baby & Toddler Show ticket!

Get your free ticket to the Sydney Essential Baby & Toddler Show for September 25-27 - register online now.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

When toddlers have strange obsessions

When it comes to two-year-olds and birthday cakes there are a few requests that are usually at the top of the list. But a cake featuring a local personal injury lawyer?

When Mama Bear strikes

When we become mums, our instinct to protect our children and keep them safe from harm is so strong we're often likened to a Mama Bear protecting her cubs.  

Immunity boosters for kids

There are no guaranteed ways to avoid the dreaded winter illnesses completely, but there are ways we can boost our children's immunity.

Yes, you can get pregnant before your period returns post-baby

After giving birth, the last thing you want to think about is contraception. But you can get pregnant before your period comes back.

Mum shares portrait of her proudly breastfeeding three-year-old

Jade Beall usually chooses to breastfeed her son, now 3, in private. This week, however, she shared portraits of her breastfeeding her preschooler.

Dealing with a toddler's morning tantrums

Your schedule is not important to your two-year-old, and you cannot convince her otherwise. So what can you do?

My baby's first seizure

It was 1am on a cold winter's night when I woke suddenly to the screams of my 12-month-old son. Our lives were about to change forever.

MP breastfeeds baby during parliamentary session

An Argentinian mum and politician has caused a stir on social media after being filmed breastfeeding her baby.

Heartbreaking moment mum kisses her one-week-old goodbye

At 11.07am on April 2 this year, Sarah Marriott welcomed baby Sebastian into the world.

The best age to get married (according to the latest study)

Not too young, and not too old. That's reportedly the best age to get married. Not everyone agrees.

Fellow diner rewards mum after toddler's tantrum

Parents of toddlers everywhere know the feeling. After working up the courage to take your child out for lunch or dinner in public you are rewarded with a mid-meal meltdown. 

IVF gender selection being considered for Australian parents

Couples using IVF may be able to choose the gender of their babies and women could be financially compensated for donating their eggs.

The amazing Tee Pee bed and kid-friendly Frankie Bunk bed

These kids' beds definitely fit the brief of providing personality and personal space for little people who are moving up in the world.

The funny things kids say when you're pregnant

Since becoming noticeably pregnant, my son has taken more of an interest in the sibling he'll soon have.

The real problem with having one child

In this age of political correctness, it seems the one subject still subject to discrimination is that of the Only Child.

The fire hazard in more than 70,000 Australian homes

So far, 206 Samsung washing machines have caught fire and some have exploded. But many remain in people's homes.

How having a baby can bring on OCD

We all know that having a baby can turn your life upside down - and it can also bring a raft of new anxieties and worries.

IKEA begins massive safety campaign after two toddler deaths

Two children were killed when pieces from their Malm furniture line tipped over.

Which beauty treatments are safe in pregnancy?

Is it safe to use fake tan, hair dye and nail varnish during pregnancy?

A dad's guide to hyperemesis

I am in no way qualified to advise women on how to cope with hyperemesis, but I've learnt some lessons that might be worth sharing with other partners.

The five ways I know my 'baby' is no longer a baby

The truth is, I can no longer deny that my walking, babbling, somewhat-independent little miss is no longer a bona fide 'baby'.

 

FREE TICKET

See Pinky McKay live in Sydney

Get your free ticket to The Essential Baby & Toddler Show and save $20 - register online now!

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.