Are you aspiring to a bigger and better house?
Is the average 3br house undesirable these days?
, Nov 18 2012 07:31 AM
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:31 AM
I've just bought a 3 bedroom house with 1 bathroom and toilet, 1 living area and small kitchen....but I'm happy as it has a dishwasher! The house is for myself and 2 kids so i don't really need 20 bedrooms, theatre room and a state of the art outdoor area. Nor could I afford one!
It seems that many people now are wanting a bigger and better home, I'm beginning to wonder what will happen when it comes time to sell my normal house and everyone wants a mcmansion. The house has a cottage feel to it with a beautiful front cottage garden. It's an area that i like and feel safe, picturesque street etc.
I'm not aspiring to a mansion, is this common??
I'd rather put the extra time, money and energy into travelling and doing things we enjoy and stay living in a smaller homey house.
Edited by paula1, 18 November 2012 - 07:32 AM.
Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:33 AM
We have a big house so no. But I also have five kids and we take up all the space
I long for the day it is just me and I can live in a small place.
Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:36 AM
I'm the same as you. I live in a 3 bedroom townhouse. I want to upgrade the garden because it's just dirt atm, but once I've done that, this place will be perfect. We hope to have 1 child, and raise them here too.
Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:37 AM
Yes I definitely think 4+ bedrooms will have much better resale later, we're in a three bedroom small house and its affordable for us at the present. I'd just like a double garage! With a smaller house the rooms can look cluttered, that's my only gripe.
Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:39 AM
We want to ultimately build our own house and it will be much bigger BUT with some important caveats.
We want a more functional house to suit our needs. There will need to be 4 bedrooms and guest rooms. W plan to make the living areas much smaller than is fashionable these days and make it so that large areas of the house can be closed off for prolonged periods to make heating etc more efficient ie like the guest wing. It will be very well insulated and double glazed with under floor heating. Yes, we will want a home theatre and gym but not something that has massive open plan expenses of tiled floor like the McMansions.
I hope that it almost becomes part of the landscape and then only when people go inside do they realize how big it actually is. That is the dream.....
After our kids grow up, well then I don't know...we may be well over the whole big house thing! I know my parents are over it.
Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:41 AM
Yes and no .... I always remember that I hate cleaning and DH only has time to look after a small yard like one we have. I jar a cleaner and it's so hard to find someone reliable!
So it's back to the no way.
Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:41 AM
We are just aspiring to buy a house at the moment and honestly what you described is the sort of house we will be looking for as our first home
Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:42 AM
I used to. We've had to turn our 2 beddy into a 4 beddy to make room for home office and extra kidlet, but it's relatively small (1 living area, 1 bathroom).
I always wanted to live in a McMansion on the hill, but so much has happened to us in this house, I've spent 6 years making it and the garden my own, I don't want to leave! I'd like to pay the mortgage off sooner and invest in other things. When I look at the floor plans of the houses I use to aspire to I wonder 'what on earth would I do with all that space?' I'm sure I could fill it up, but that would proabably mean an accumulation of crap. Not to mention cost of electricity and heating!
Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:43 AM
We don't own yet, but if we were to buy we wouldn't be upgrading size-wise much, if at all.
We're in a 3 bedroom right now, and FIL, the owner, is sort of hoping we'll take over the mortgage one day soon.
We might need one more bedroom if we have another child, but only because we need the study as a study!
Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:46 AM
We are building our home at the moment, and it is probably on the small side compared to others in the street. But it is perfect for us, and for the next 20 years we hope. We designed it around function and useability, rather that sheer size.
Our first home was a three bedroom cottage on a tiny square of land, so we've definitely been there. But being the person I am (issues with clutter and messiness), it would have driven me crazy to have 2 kids there. I need to be able to put things away so that my mind can be at peace.
So we designed a house with plenty of storage space and areas where mess can be made.
I have no desire to upgrade to a mansion, Mc- or otherwise, at any point in the future.
Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:49 AM
We currently have a 3 bedroom 2 full bathroom, 2 smallish living areas. I used to think we would try to find one with another bedroom but we have just renovated this house to improve the kitchen adn bathrooms and current life situations say we will be staying. I really like the location and the house so don't want to move. Although another bedroom would be nice for the occassional over seas visitors. But my parents won't be back for another 3 years so I won't need to worry about that.
Sorry, the answer to your question is no. I am happy in a 3 bedroom house- 2 kids 2 adults. It is about all I can manage to keep clean, also keeps the junk down becuase storage can be an issue. Sounds like you are in a lovely house for your family.
Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:49 AM
No, what I have is big enough for me to clean.
Edited by ambwrose, 12 September 2013 - 06:11 AM.
Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:51 AM
At the moment, yes I am, but we have a much bigger family (and hope to add to it if possible). We have a 4 bedroom 1 living area house. We do need 5-6 bedrooms and 3 living areas so we are not all living on top of each other. My older kids are a couple of years off being teens, they will need somewhere they can go to be alone to study and have some peace and quite. We have plans for a 5/6 bedroom and 4/5 living areas. It's not a mansion, but something that has many smaller rooms is much better for our situation than one with large open space rooms.
But for 3 people, your house sounds very suitable and very sensible. There is no way in your situation I would consider a house such as the one I described above. If we had 1-3 children, our current house would be perfect as we'd have 1 room as a lounge and 3 bedrooms.
We also plan on using our current as an investment, then when our kids have grown up, switch back to this house. It is in a great location near the beach, just too far from work and too small. then we'll use our bigger house as the investment. (thats the plan anyhow)
Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:51 AM
Given that we live in a 2 bedroom + very small study house with tiny living areas, yeah, we are aspiring to one day live somewhere a bit bigger.
For now though, this house does us fine.
Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:57 AM
Depends on your definition of "McMansion".
We're about to upgrade our 3 bedroom 1 bathroom place to a 4 bedroom 2 bathroom place. It was a good place to start with but we want to have three children and I am vehemently opposed to children sharing a room, particularly as they get older. I have personally lived through the hell that is three teenage girls all needing to use one bathroom to get ready for school and would much prefer a second bathroom. The lack of dining room is really bothering DP and a second kids' living space will be useful.
In saying that, our 3x1 sold pretty quickly. The market isn't homogenised by families with children - single people, first home buyers, people downgrading and investors may all be interested in smaller houses.
Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:58 AM
Yep we want a bigger place. Tiny 10sq 3 bedroom place here for 6 soon to be 7 of us!
Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:58 AM
I am! Im finding as a family of 5 we are bursting at the seams of our 3 bedroom/ 1 bathroom house.
I think I would cope better if there was a 2nd lounge room but atm we are always on top of each other so I think we need the space. I certainly dont want a huge house (too much cleaning!) but another bedroom or a 2nd living area would be great.
Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:00 AM
Nope not us.
We have a 6 bedroom house with 2 bathrooms, open plan lounge/kitchen/dinning rooms. 4 bedrooms in the main house, 2 outside in a separate sleep out. We have a 20x30ft cemented garage and two huge rain water tanks, with a large entertaining area and smallish backyard. We are putting in an above ground pool next month.
But in about 5 years we are selling it all and buying a caravan and travelling around Australia for a few years. It's always been our dream. Edited to include, when both the girls living at home now, aged 23 and 16 have left home, so when DH and myself are for the first time alone
A bigger house was the plan years ago, but who can afford them anymore. I think your cosy 3 bedroom house would be someone else's dream house, so yes it will always be desirable to many people.
Edited by morgansacre, 18 November 2012 - 08:03 AM.
Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:04 AM
Not so much a better house, but more room. Our 4 bedrooms are all quite small, and our house isn't very open, so I spend quite a bit of time looking through real estate sites looking for places with good sized rooms and on more land. Right now we're considering going semi-rural, I'm just waiting on my lotto win
Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:06 AM
I definitely want a bigger and better house... we have a 3 br, 1 bathroom house and no place for storage, so those things will change. And our location sucks at the moment.
As far as resale of your current house, I expect you will have no problems... it will probably suit someone in the same circumstances as yourself, or a couple, or for location or whatever... everyone wants some different.
Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:10 AM
We are building, and have decided on a place that is more than enough for our needs, but at 23 Sq (excl garage) people think its a small place. Its a 3Bdr 2Bath open plan living/Kit/Dining and a separate lounge and study. All the rooms are well sized, I dont think its over the top in size but is more than enough room for a growing family.
We recently sold our smallish 4Bed 2Bath 2CarG (18Sq) in town, (we did find it to be too small with just the one living space), that and we hated the suburb, so are building our new larger home in the country on 5 Acres, with about the same, if not less, morgage.
I look at houses that are 35 sq, and 48sq and 60sq and think what do people do with all that room? And you cant just have it empty, you need the furniture to go with it, and thats pricey for quality pieces.
So yes, we are wanting extra room, but not heaps. There are plenty of buyers now and in the future who are not looking for massive spaces, and i actually think the pendulum is going to swing back in favor of quality smaller homes rather than McMansions over the next 10 years, as its unsustainable the currents trends for bigger and bigger homes and their subsequent mortgages.
So no, dont worry about your new home in terms of sellability, wouldnt think its going to be an issue.
Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:10 AM
I think it depends how large your family is. 3 bed, 1 living, 1 bathroom is too small for us. I don't think it's a bad home, it's just not big enough for us. If we had only 3 people in the family instead of 5 it might be big enough.
Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:15 AM
I would be happy with a modest 4 bedroom house with a decent backyard. A decent size kitchen is a must as is ample storage and a garage that will fit my Rav4 in....
4 bedrooms....the main bedroom, Eamons bedroom, my craft room and a spare room for when I need to kick DP out of bed
Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:28 AM
We have a 4 bedroom, 2 bathroomish (ones combined with the laundry). DP wants something bigger, I don't. For 2 kids we have plenty of space. But for little kids at least I'd rather have a big backyard for them to play in than a mcmansion taking up all the room. I can't get DD not to be in the same room as me when she's playing, so what's the point of extra rooms?
The floor plan of the house is crap though so I'd like to, eventually, turn the dining room into a laundry, moving the laundry out of bathroom 2. The lounge would need expanding a bit, but the foundations are already there.
At least 30% of the house is currently not really used. Out dining room is used for putting the clean washing on the table before we get around to putting it away and one bedroom is a box room. We have 3 (!) sheds on the property but we still seem to have a whole large room devoted to crap. A bigger house is just more room to pile junk and to have to clean. In some ways we'd be better off in a smaller , better laid out place.
I don't see that bigger is a better investment. A 1 or 2 bedder is often a good investment property in terms of maximising rental returns. There will always be people who want smaller properties.
Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:31 AM
We are currently renting a 4 bedroom place (2A, 2C). It's fine. We have guests come and stay regularly, so the 4th bedroom gets used. The kids currently share the 2nd bedroom, so the 3rd bedroom is our study and that definitely gets used a lot (also the ironing room, craft room, sewing room).
We are hoping to build soon. Our plan will be 4 bedrooms again. It works well for us with the 2 kids and all our family who live out-of-state. DH and I have talked about the plan to downsize when the kids have grown up and moved out and at this stage, we'd be happy to move into a smaller place then and let a growing family have the larger home.
I think a 3 bed 1 living 1 bath is fine. It's what a lot of families have. But it is not going to suit everyone. 4 bedrooms are not a trend - they have been around for at least 30-40 years.
My problem with McMansions is that they were/are often not designed to suit the block of land, meaning they didn't take into account the north-south aspect to minimise heating/cooling costs, and the floor plan itself is often not efficient or particularly adaptable. But that's also the case with many older homes too, not just McMansions.
I hope new houses/apartments being built are considering this. Plus, I wish new suburbs are being designed for a variety of different housing forms (2 bed, 3 bed, 4 bed and 5 bed) so that people can move within the same area as their family grows and contracts, thus creating more cohesive communities that suit families through most of their life stages.
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