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#1 Moo point

Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:28 PM

I'm sure this has been done to death but.... I'm having trouble understanding the work commitment required to be eligible for the CCR.

It says on the Centrelink page that there are no minimum hours, yet 2 paragraphs below says it has to be a minimum of 15 hours??

I was planning on returning to work one day per week from February, and have lined up childcare. Am I right in thinking I won't get the rebate for this day as I will only be working 7 or 8 hours? DH works full time. I am on leave without pay (was not eligible for unpaid parental leave as had only been employed 8 months before having DS).

Also, if I have overestimated our income, will we just be paid extra at the end of the financial year or is there something else I need to do?

TIA.

#2 SeaPrincess

Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:33 PM

There are no minimum hours for CCR.  You have to work/study over 15 hours to qualify for more than 24 hours (2 days) of CCB.
http
://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/e...ing-study-test

No idea about the overestimation. We only qualify for CCR, so we get it back once a quarter.

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#3 Lil Chickens

Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:37 PM

CCB requires a minimum of 15 hours to get fee relief on any ore than 24 hours of care (up to 50 hours).
See here

CCR has no minimum hours.  As long as you both work (etc) during the week you are entitled.
See here

Based on what you have written you will get CCB and CCR.  If you wanted more than 24 hours of fee relief you wouldn't qualify as you don't work (etc) at least 15 hours.

ETA regarding overestimation - if you overestimated you will get less CCB than you should which in tuirn means you will get more CCR than you should (as CCR is simply 50% of your out of pocket expenses).  At the end of year they will backpay you CCB and some of that will be taken to pay off your CCR debt.

Edited by Isabelle Thomas, 16 November 2012 - 03:38 PM.


#4 Moo point

Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:41 PM

Ah ok, that makes sense. Thank you so much both of you! It's all a bit of a minefield, appreciate the links.

#5 ingridhumanservice

Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:46 PM

Hi Ange_75, I work with the Australian Government Department of Human Services in a team that responds to questions about Centrelink payments and services on social media sites like this. I passed your questions on to our subject matter experts and this is the information I got back. I know it's a lot of information, but hopefully it answers all of your questions. All the best!  original.gif
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The Work/Training/Study test is different for Child Care Benefit (CCB) and Child Care Rebate (CCR).

To be eligible for CCB for  approved care of more than 24 hours (and up to 50 hours) of child care per week, a person (and their partner) must satisfy the CCB Work/Training/Study test by undertaking a work related activity (or a combination of activities)
for at least 15 hours per week (or 30 hours per fortnight) or have an exemption.  

However, to be eligible for CCR (to be assessed for 50% of the out of pocket child care expenses), there is no minimum hour requirement for a person (and their partner) to be undertaking to satisfy the CCR Work/Training/Study test. That is, if a person (and their partner) are undertaking a work related activity (or have an exemption) at some time during the week that care is being provided then the CCR Work/Training/Study test is met.

Based on 7 or 8 hours of work per week for yourself and full time work for your partner, you will satisfy the Work/Training/Study test for CCR but you would only be eligible for CCB of up to 24 hours per week.

CCB may entitle you to a reduction of your child care fees, based on your and your partner's income estimate.

Your CCB entitlement is reassessed at the end of the financial year based on your actual income, after you have lodged your tax returns. If you have over estimated your income during the year, you may receive a top-up of CCB at the end of financial year.

The CCR is not income tested but is based on your CCB entitlement. When your CCB is reassessed at the end of the financial year, your CCR will also be reassessed based on your actual CCB entitlement.  If you have over estimated your income during the year for CCB purposes, your CCR would have been paid on a higher out of pocket costs.  Therefore, if your CCR is reassessed at the end of the year using a higher CCB entitlement then you may have been overpaid CCR.

When the CCB and CCR are both reassessed at the end of the financial year, any overpayment for one payment will be offset by any top-up entitlement for the other payment.  As a result you may receive either a top-up or a debt.  Generally speaking, if you over estimate your income for CCB, the net result may be an amount paid to you.






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