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#1 Wacky Wobbler

Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:06 PM

Our little boy is 11 days old and since bringing him home (a week ago) he doesn't sleep well. He feeds (EBM and ff) every 3 to 4 hours and we change his nappy, wrap him tightly and cuddle him to sleep but once in his bed he only sleeps 30 to 60 mins if that. Sometimes it can take hours to get him to sleep.

Any tips or hints for settling?


#2 Mmmcheese

Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:31 PM

Congratulations on your new little one! I can't remember much of the early days, but I remember reading that sleep breeds sleep, so I would have my little one have a nap on me,so she would get at least one decent length nap. Can't remember if it worked or not though! Sorry, I'm not much help.

#3 Mmmcheese

Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:31 PM


Edited by Mmmcheese, 15 November 2012 - 04:33 PM.

#4 Mmmcheese

Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:31 PM

More posts!

Edited by Mmmcheese, 15 November 2012 - 04:32 PM.

#5 Mmmcheese

Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:31 PM

Too many posts!

Edited by Mmmcheese, 15 November 2012 - 04:32 PM.

#6 Lokum

Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:39 PM

I agree with Cherry Ames. I'd try to sneak in another BF or two during the day (and then you might be able to ditch the FF top ups).

Also, I'd be aiming to have the baby wrapped for resettling within 90 minutes of waking up. Ideally, even an hour, but I think yours is a slow feeder? Mine was too (an hour per feed, incl nappy change), so it was hard to get him settled in an hour.

However, if you leave it too late, they get overtired, and then they can wake up early. It is a crazy time though - you might need to plonk on the couch for a 2 hour movie and hold the baby, to make sure there's at least one long sleep?

#7 RachelT

Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:48 PM

Have you tried white noise? Young babies love it!

#8 mandala

Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:02 PM

I seem to remember your DS was falling asleep during feeds? I would try keeping him awake to keep him feeding effectively (we would even put a wet cotton ball on DS's cheek) and try to get DS back to bed within an hour of waking. One tip I've been given was to put DS to bed 15 minutes before I thought he needed to sleep. Once they get into a cycle of overtiredness, it's often very hard to get them out of it.

Other than that, you could try the car, going for a walk, rocking the pram over a bump in the carpet, put baby in a sling, let him sleep on you. The only thing that worked for DS was jiggling him on DH's shoulder, and that would take hours to work. It's really hard.

#9 Wacky Wobbler

Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:21 PM

I think we are going through the arsenic hours. This is the first time this has happened so we were not sure what was happening. 7 hours later and he has finally crashed with many tears from both baby and mum.

Not looking forward to doing it all again tomorrow.

#10 belindarama

Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:28 PM

I second the white noise. One that replicated the sounds of the womb worked wonders for DS2 and his catnapping.

Although at that age I would be expecting more frequent feeds to be the norm.

#11 FlamingoG

Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:33 PM

My DD was the same - would not be put down once asleep on us. To get through these early weeks, I would be letting him sleep on you just to get him going. At about four weeks we would persevere with the shushing and patting in the basket, which she caught on to eventually - but at this point, you all need a bit of down time. Sending you lots of happy sleepy thoughts!

#12 Tarantara

Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:33 PM

Puzzling little creatures babies are. Sounds like you did a great job getting him to sleep in the end.

When my baby was new, some of the things that really helped were:
  • Trying to keep the feed to under an hour. I would change his nappy at the start of the feed, then try to get him fed within an hour. He was very, very bad at eating at first. I wouldn't change him at the end unless really required. It often dragged out longer, but I kept trying to speed it up. When he was just a week or two old I would use a cool, damp cloth to wipe his face to keep him awake to eat.
  • White noise. I have an app called Relax Melodies (free) I swear it was incredible. You can choose up to ten sounds that play, noisily, and I found that a combo of the white noise, rushing water and a music box helped my baby stay asleep past one sleep cycle. He has since progressed to Gilbert and Sullivan operettas :/
  • Rocking him over the bump where the tiles meet the carpet in the bathroom door, or bumping him into something gently. I would put him in his pram and rock him to sleep, starting out quite vigorously, and then slowing down as he slowed down. Trying to be gentle and firm, but not forceful if that makes sense.
  • Holding him upright so his ear was near my mouth and breathing slowly and gently. My theory was that he would copy the type of breathing I was doing, and it was relaxing breathing, so even if it didn't work for him it would help keep me calm! He was never a baby to like being held horizontally. Even now, he doesn't really like to go to sleep in my arms but prefers to relax in his bed with me near him for reassurance.

#13 Kay1

Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:35 PM

I am not sure I have anything to offer except sympathy. My #2 was like that.

I third the white noise - LOUD! That's what they use in the nursery in hospital. Is there anywhere he will sleep? Like on your chest etc.

Hang in there, just keep repeating "This will pass".

#14 Moneypenny2014

Posted 15 November 2012 - 09:21 PM

I agree with KRT.
I believe a baby of that age should be up for one hour - this includes nappy change time, feeding and burping.
When he wakes, change his nappy and then feed and burp him. You may find by the time you finish all of that (depending on how long he feeds for) he will be ready to go back to bed.
If he gets over tired you will find him harder to settle. A hint for recognising over tiredness is the hiccups believe it or not!
Also a baby's sleep cycle is circa 40 mins so you will need to kind of train him to self settle after this. In that, if he wakes after 40 mins you should try and settle him again so that he knows he should sleep for longer.
I would say bf every 3 hours and try and not offer ff top ups.

#15 Mum2TwoDSs

Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:26 AM

Found this site that explains bub's sleep cycle whic I thought is helpful for us to understand bb :


And a helpful video : http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gJv-7wpGE6A

Edited by Mum2TwoDSs, 16 November 2012 - 03:02 AM.

#16 pinkcupcakes

Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:53 AM

itoo cant offer much more than sympathy, but give yourself a break, it takes a few weeks just for all of you to figure out the basics! happy.gif if you find something that works for you, stick with it, who cares if its not the norm.  also i have to recommend white noise as well, although nothing fancy. i got a $12 box fan for my kids n faced it away from them so they got the noise but not the draft. and vaccuum in the early days to get bub used to noise. (or get someone to do it for u!) my ds will sleep in bouncer in loungeroom while i go right past him with vaccuum. its amazing! i have a different feeding routine than a pp mentioned , it works for ds but maybe it depends on the baby... i feed one side, change him, feed other side, n after a burp its back to bed.no noise or light or talking. hope things get easier,puffsgirl. wink.gif

#17 kay11

Posted 16 November 2012 - 01:10 AM

My first was like this. A catnapper almost from birth. It was exhausting and even now at 3 she is full on and very testing. I could rarely get her to sleep for more than 20-40 minutes. I did so much 'resettling' one week it felt like I lived in her bedroom. And all it made me do was feel frustrated and depressed. It's not like she slept any better by the end of it...

One time (around 3 weeks) she was up for 6 hours - happily enough as it was, but sheesh. It must've worn her out though because she slept for 12 hours straight after that.

#18 BadgerBasher

Posted 16 November 2012 - 01:19 AM

Well and truly out of 0-6m, but I used to wrap beanie REALLY tightly, put her on my chest and sing. Once she was asleep, I'd put her on the bed next to DP (works shift), wake him up so he knew she was there and go sleep on the couch.
He'd put her in the crook of his elbow, and they'd snooze quite happily for 80 minutes or so.

#19 redmum77

Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:34 AM

I just bought a Lullabub. It moves the cot like a car and slowly stops itself, then you can kick a button and it starts again if they wake too early.

Dd was a shocking sleeper, but I had this for DS, and he was wonderful and learned to self settle without it in no time. Best investment I ever made. No I'm not selling them! Lol. Don't even know if they are still out there.

#20 Mum2TwoDSs

Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:54 AM

Wow what's that? Not out yet? Have a picture?

#21 Wacky Wobbler

Posted 16 November 2012 - 10:21 AM

Thanks for the replies.

I need to top him up with formula as ATM I'm not producing enough milk for him so cutting them out is not going to happen.

We went for a walk in the pram at 10pm and that finally got him to sleep.

Will look into the white noise apps.

#22 Mum2TwoDSs

Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:54 AM

Just went on you tube...there's lots white noise there too...have a search, they will come up.

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