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Anyone with a new Safe n Sound Compaq?
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#1 machine

Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:58 PM

I tried the Safe n Sound Compaq last weekend and it gives us considerably more room in the front passenger seat than our current rear facing car seat.  It seemed to tick the boxes.  I will be using it for the new edition due at the end of January.  I was wondering though if it would need propping with a towel as we currently have a Toyota Corolla (very small car) and the seats are very slopped.

I also want to try the Infa-Secure Kompressor Caprice which is due out in mid December but don't really want to wait because my toddler is still rear facing and she could use the Compaq in the mean time.  I didn't try her in it but if I think she'll last a while longer in that rear facing I might buy a second to keep her safer for longer.

If you have the Compaq, what are the things you like and dislike about it?

Thanks in advance.

#2 Isolabella

Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:13 PM

Love it. Easy install in my car ( use it FF). 5yo DS2 at 114cm fits fine. 7 yo brother at 117cm can fit in it too.

Nice high protection for the head.

Easy o do up booster seat seatbelt next to this seat - I have three across.

ETA my boys are longer torso children... Their tops are a size larger then their pants.

Edited by lsolaBella, 14 November 2012 - 06:14 PM.

#3 machine

Posted 14 November 2012 - 09:32 PM

Thanks so much for your response (I think I recall you replied to one of my earlier posts asking about compact car seats).  Very helpful indeed.  How long do you think you could have kept them rear facing in the seat?  I have a fairly petite 26 month old and one thing I didn't do was try her in the seat.  I will go back to the store and do that and I'm hoping she'll still be able to rear face for a while in it.

Thanks again.   original.gif

#4 Isolabella

Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:02 AM

If you search through my posts I have a picture of kids in the compaq. From memory around 95 cm is RF height.

#5 Froger

Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:25 AM

I have two of these next to each other in the middle row of my van, both rear facing. I have an almost 3 year old (but small child) still rear facing in one seat. His legs need to be folded, but he fits just fine. But as I said, he is small (only weighs 11kg soaking wet and is on one of the lower percentiles for height).

There is nothing I dislike about this seat. It is very easy to use and install.

#6 machine

Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:59 AM

Thanks IsolaBella, I will do a search.

Thank you SarahM72.  My toddler is 11.6kg at the moment and has been for months.  How much longer do you think your son will fit rear facing?  Kind of a silly question really as it all depends on how he grows height wise.   rolleyes.gif   biggrin.gif

By the way, when was the new version of the Compaq released?

#7 chickenpants

Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:25 AM

We bought the old model Compaq just before the new one was released and that was in May.

#8 machine

Posted 15 November 2012 - 09:01 AM

Wow, for some reason I was getting the opinion that they'd been around for a while.

How do you find the old model?

#9 Isolabella

Posted 15 November 2012 - 01:23 PM

New model RF height markers are at 36cm. In contrast the baby love seat have them at 30 cm.

#10 machine

Posted 16 November 2012 - 01:17 PM

I've just been back to the shop to try my LO in the Compaq rear facing as that's why I wanted to buy it, to keep her rear facing for longer.  She's too bloody tall!  I'm so gutted.  I was convinced she would be below the lower height marker especially considering the seat has been tested using a 15kg crash test dummy rear facing.  I don't know why I failed to try her when I was there the other day.

Something that really annoyed me was that the sales people didn't seem to be able to comprehend that as long as LO was below the lower height marker she could use the seat rear facing up to 15kg.  One of the sales women also commented that Australia has the highest car seat standards in the world after I said I wished we had the European standards and seats here.  I disagreed with her and she firmly said 'yes we do' several times.  She didn't even know that the seat I was looking at could hold a toddler rear facing up to 15kg if still under the lower height marker and she's selling the damn thing!

I think if you're selling car seats you should have to have a full understanding of the seats you sell as well as the current legislations and law regarding them.  A bit of knowledge about other countries use wouldn't go astray either.

The simple argument is that infants and children are safest rear facing as long as possible and as Australia doesn't sell car seats compatible with doing this, it is no longer a leader in safety standards.  We still can't use IsoFix legally (yet) either and that is safer simply for the fact that installation is much easier and therefore less prone to error when installing a seat.  It made my blood boil to the point where I would rather buy from another store when the time comes to purchase for the new baby.

Even the US now recommends that toddlers remain rear facing until two years of age.  Australia get with the times!!!

I will get off my soap box now.  I just had to rant.  Sorry.   blush.gif

I'm now reconsidering buying the Compaq for the new baby because she'll likely have to forward face before she would in the car seat my older daughter is currently in.

I weighed my daughter last night and she has hit 12kg so I have to turn her car seat around tonight.  I am not happy about it.  Yes, I will have heaps of leg room but I'd rather be scrunched up in the front if she could still rear face.  sad.gif

#11 BabeBlossom

Posted 16 November 2012 - 01:30 PM

What seat is your DD currently in?
My DD 22 months is comfortably RF in a SNS meridian but we are looking at seats for the new baby and a meridian behind the drivers seat means DH won't be able to safely drive my car, he's just too tall.

#12 machine

Posted 16 November 2012 - 02:14 PM

My DD is 26 months and currently in the Baby Love Ultimate Greystone convertable car seat and my OH can't drive with that rear facing behind the drivers seat either.  We've never had her behind the drivers seat though.  Now that she has to forward face anyway there won't be a problem with her being behind the driver's seat and the new baby will be behind the the passenger seat.

How tall is your OH?  Mine OH is 5'10" and he thinks he could have driven our Toyota Corolla with the SnS Compaq (rear facing) behind the drivers seat.  The seat does offer a lot more leg room in the front passenger seat than our Babylove seat.  I was quite surprised by just how much.  I couldn't gage properly if it would need to be propped using a rolled towel or not with a newborn in it though which would take up a little more room.  Give that a try if you have a shop near you.

#13 ednaboo

Posted 17 November 2012 - 07:56 AM

I would be delighted to get a child to 26mo RF in an Aus restraint.  Having said that, we had to move DS2 FF at 15mo and I honestly felt no anxiety about it.  Michael Paine, who is an Australian road safety researcher, says this:

23 Mar 11 7News: Rear-facing safety seats best until age two: US panel - Comment: Channel 7 in Sydney put together a hastily prepared TV item on this that was misleading. Infants can safely use forward facing child seat when they outgrow a rearward-facing infant capsule (generally 6 to 12 months). For more than three decades Australian infants facing forward have survived extremely severe frontal car crashes  without serious head or neck injuries - provided that they are correctly strapped in. US studies are not necessarily applicable to Australian child restaint systems. See these reports and papers for the Australian situation: Australian Road Rules 7th Amendment Package 2007, Draft Regulatory Impact Statement (2007) + PROTECTING CHILDREN IN CAR CRASHES: THE AUSTRALIAN EXPERIENCE (ESV 2003) + NeuRA researchers contribute to new child restraint legislation:  Despite claims by Volvo that the new legislation puts children in danger, Assoc Prof Bilston says the Australian legislation has been constructed upon the best available evidence, and that there is no evidence that the concerns raised by Swedish researchers via Volvo Australia are an issue for Australian children. “Our study reviewing all spinal injury among children in NSW over a 5 year period found no serious neck injuries in forward-facing child restraints that were not being grossly misused,” says Assoc Professor Bilston. “Children under four in Australian forward-facing restraints often survive very severe frontal crashes with no or only minor injuries, even when multiple other vehicle occupants have been killed,” she says. “This is very strong evidence that Australian forward-facing restraints provide excellent protection to children even in very high severity crashes.”

From his webpage.

I hear your vent about the staff in the baby store, and sadly this kind of experience is pretty common.  (Actually we've heard far worse advice from baby shops in here!)  Dumb advice is everywhere.  As I've said here before, Kidsafe Qld advised my relative to put their little 7mo FF in a Maxirider when the hire capsule had to be returned!  huh.gif And I couldn't convince them otherwise as this was Kidsafe.  Anyway, AFAIK the 15kg RF thing is pretty new and I don't know that it's "official" advice yet.  So she probably wasn't wrong per se.

#14 sunshinedays

Posted 17 November 2012 - 10:52 AM

i know you said your DD is too big for it, but i thought i'd respond to your initial question anyway, for anyone else reading the thread.

My DD is 17 months. no idea on height. We had her in the old Compaq, which she had outgrown rear-facing (straps coming from below shoulders). We got the new Compaq and put her in it (rear-facing) for the first time today. She has probably 2cm before she reaches the height markers. So i am very happy. It appear to be no bigger than the old compaq either (as in, we don't need to move the front seat any further forward), which was what we wanted. For DS we had the (old) meridian AHR but we had to move the front seat forward more than was optimal. The new compaq has higher height markers than the new Meridian too.

AND, it comes in purple! what more could i want lol original.gif

#15 machine

Posted 17 November 2012 - 05:22 PM

Thanks ednaboo.

sunshinedays - purple would have been my choice too!   biggrin.gif

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