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#1 ~mimo~

Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:24 PM

Just be aware, in most workplaces (incl schools), there is a code of conduct which states that people are not to accept gifts over a certain value.

Though, I have never seen anything knocked back, just be aware.

Even if you think, "Oh, it's only a $5 scratchie", potentially it could be worth $1000 or more!

Disclaimer: I have no reason to mention this, just wanted to make people aware. wink.gif



#2 Kafkaesque

Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:27 PM

I would of thought most professionals would be aware of this.

#3 ~mimo~

Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:29 PM

Yes, professionals would be. But not necessarily parents.

#4 Feral Becky

Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:29 PM

I thought you were going to mention that giving a sex toy to the kids teacher is not a good idea. ohmy.gif

#5 *Lib*

Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:29 PM

QUOTE (Kafkaesque @ 13/11/2012, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would of thought most professionals would be aware of this.

Yes but the gift giver may not be.

#6 Feral Becky

Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:31 PM

Is this topic a fluff or serious?


*confused*

#7 Phoenix Blue

Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:33 PM

So what is the certain value? I am (was) a teacher and never heard anything about it.  When I went on materity leave, all the mums from my grade put in and bought me a bouncer as a gift. Would this be over the 'certain' amount?

Seems a bit arbitrary to me...?

Efs

Edited by Phoenix Blue, 13 November 2012 - 07:34 PM.


#8 ~mimo~

Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:35 PM

QUOTE (Phoenix Blue @ 13/11/2012, 08:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So what is the certain value? I am (was) a teacher and never heard anything about it.  When I went on materity leave, all the mums from my grade put in and bought me a bouncer as a gift. Would this be over the 'certain' amount?

Seems a bit arbitrary to me...?

Efs

Every workplace is different.

#9 Isolabella

Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:36 PM

Theoretically I needed to register any gift given by me or to me between DH and I as when I was working I was working at a company which was his firm's client. DH theoretically needed to do the same.

It got complicated as as his spouse I was not allowed to hold shares in the company I worked for, but as an employee I would receive up to $1k of shares each year which were held in trust for 3 yrs. so has to get special exemption from both companies to hold in trust and then also needed permission from both companies to sell the shares. Problem one time was DH's company required me to sell shares immediately, but my company had trading blackout for people I my area. Which firm rules to follow? LOL

#10 Expelliarmus

Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:40 PM

FYI, In NSW the DET says the value limit is $50.
https://www.det.nsw.edu.au/media/downloads/...nduct-guide.pdf

In the ACT it is defined as 'nominal' and the amount of $30 is quoted.
http://www.det.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pd...nalPractice.pdf

I can't find any documentation for the other states, but it's acceptable to receive a gift of 'nominal value'. I can't see nominal being more than $50.

#11 FeralProudSwahili

Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:41 PM

Why do you want to make people aware OP?

#12 Drowningnotwaving

Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:43 PM

Yay I can keep my sh*tty coffee cup with logo. I wish I got a scratchie. Worst job related Christmas present anyone?

I'm not a "professional" just a sh*t kicker.

Edited by Drowningnotwaving, 13 November 2012 - 07:48 PM.


#13 Dionysus

Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:43 PM

No issues for SA teachers.

Though it must be clear that the gift is part of a normal, acceptable, symbolic situation (christmas, birthday, birth of baby, marriage...)

Or as a thankyou for something

Or a monetary contribution/donation to the school

Though, it must be clear that in no way could it be seen as a bribe.

The actual amount is irrelevant (so, a $2 scratchie that results in a $1000 win is fine)

DECD also recommends setting up some kind of receipt register if a huge number of gifts are received throughout the year - just to record what the gift was in response to

ETA: link to info for SA

Edited by **Mel**, 13 November 2012 - 07:45 PM.


#14 Jembo

Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:47 PM

Is this the case for WA teachers?  In my kindy class I got a note to ask to contribute to a coffee machine thingy for the kindy teachers, and it did cross my mind if this was ideal, as I know in my prev occupation of govt, we had to declare everything?

#15 Beltie

Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:53 PM

QUOTE (Poet in New York @ 13/11/2012, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It could only be seen as a bribe if you gave it at the start of the school year, not at the end.  wink.gif


No, this doesn't work. It can be seen as "payment" for some form of service already received eg good marks.

#16 EsmeLennox

Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:54 PM

Jembo, yes it is in place in WA. I think the amount is described as 'nominal'. I can't recall the details. If it is a gift that is to be used at the school and shared amongst staff them it could be considered a donation to the school.

Edited by Jemstar, 13 November 2012 - 07:55 PM.


#17 .Jerry.

Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:55 PM

In Qld Education the amount is $150, however it doesn't mean you can't get a gift over this amount, just that it must be declared to the Principal.  As long as there is no conflict of interest then often the gift can be kept.
It's pretty rare to get one gift over that value anyway.

#18 Fr0g

Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:00 PM

As a social worker, I'm not *allowed* to accept any gift. I have only received several small, handmade gifts over the years from clients, which I have accepted.

Its more about the nature of the relationship and boundaries as far as I'm aware.

I do know a situation where a colleague once found flowers at her work, a 'thank you' from a grateful parolee. She was glad she didn't accept them... it could have complicated matters when she applied to have his parole revoked a short time later, lol...

#19 threetimesblessed

Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:03 PM

Yes, NSW DEC it is a $50 limit.
This part of the Code of Conduct has been mentioned and enforced many times at every school I've ever worked at.
It is highlighted to parents too so rarely is a gift given that is over $50 ie. movie gift cards for $50, perfume that is approx. $50 etc.
Once someone received some appliance (can't recall what it was but equivalent to a coffee machine) and it had to stay at school for the staffroom, couldn't be taken home by the individual teacher.
Gifts over $50 to be declared to the principal.


#20 EsmeLennox

Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:04 PM

Jembo see below.

WA policy

#21 Jembo

Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:59 PM

Thanks for that.  The idea I believe is to give to the kindy teacher (not the general staff).  They will figure it out eventually I am sure.  I wasn't contributing as I am one of those nutso parents who would rather my children made a nice thank you card for their teacher than me put in $5 for a coffee machine that will probably end up in general staff room cause it cant be given to kindy teacher.

#22 fruitbat72

Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:22 PM

As a nurse, we are not supposed to accept any form of gift.

Unless you can eat it, then it's game on.




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