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#1 FluffyOscar

Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:08 PM

A friend of mine who teaches in a public secondary school told me yesterday that teachers will not be writing reports for students this year as part of their industrial action. I was at a party and we were then interrupted so I didn't get a chance to clarify with her.

Can anyone tell me please whether this is true?

#2 starsg

Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:11 PM


I have a friend who teaches at a public primary school in Melbourne and she said this is true.

Edited by starsg, 11 November 2012 - 01:14 PM.


#3 justcait2

Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:16 PM

I think you will find it is only those teachers who are in the union so there will still be plenty of kids who will get school reports.  For instance at our school I think there are only about 10 teachers out of about 40 classes who are in the union therefore there will still be 30 classes who will get school reports.


#4 lucky 2

Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:26 PM

I'm sorry to hear this, whilst I support their action I don't support this, I want this feedback about my child and it causes ill will in me for one.  sad.gif
I'll be asking dd's teacher on Monday, almost all teachers have been involved in the strike action.

#5 toc76

Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:27 PM

As part of the industrial action union members are not writing full reports.  At our school union members still have to give an overall satisfactory or not satisfactory for each subject as well as the VELs progression points.  This is. At a secondary school so not sure what they are doing. Non members doing full reports.


#6 Carmen02

Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:33 PM

wow hope that changes.. it would effect DS1 who has been struggling this year

#7 emnut

Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:36 PM

QUOTE (lucky 2 @ 11/11/2012, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sorry to hear this, whilst I support their action I don't support this, I want this feedback about my child and it causes ill will in me for one.  sad.gif
I'll be asking dd's teacher on Monday, almost all teachers have been involved in the strike action.


This sums up how I feel too lucky 2.  DS's teacher ha given nothing all year so while I know for DS he is doing well, there are so many kids out there who having that feedback for is essential.

#8 cira

Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:44 PM

Can any teachers comment on why this action was chosen?

I am guessing that reports are strictly considered an admin activity outside of actual teaching. Are they typically written outside of work hours?

#9 Mocha Coffee

Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:47 PM

Whilst we all want and need feedback on our children, it would appear that the government is not prepared to keep its promises to teachers.  The only way to be heard is to actually take action that the community takes notice of.  It's hard.  People hate the strike days.  Reports are incredibly time consuming and take up hours of out of school hours.  I think this is why teachers are going down this route.  

I support the teachers even though I love a report.  Go and see your teacher.  They will let you know how your child is faring.

#10 emnut

Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:51 PM

QUOTE (Mocha Coffee @ 11/11/2012, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I support the teachers even though I love a report.  Go and see your teacher.  They will let you know how your child is faring.


unfortunately not always the case - it was one of the many beefs that a large proportion of parents have with DS's current teacher.

#11 opethmum

Posted 11 November 2012 - 02:01 PM

I support teachers in not writing school reports. The Baillieu gov't has lost its way and has not delivered on its promises to teachers.

#12 Peta Feral

Posted 11 November 2012 - 02:04 PM

QUOTE (Mocha Coffee @ 11/11/2012, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I support the teachers even though I love a report.  Go and see your teacher.  They will let you know how your child is faring.

My mum and my sister are teachers. This.

#13 idignantlyright

Posted 11 November 2012 - 02:11 PM

I am glad I am not in Victoria.
My kids love reading their reports.

#14 FluffyOscar

Posted 11 November 2012 - 02:21 PM

Wow, I'm really disappointed. I don't support this at all.

#15 Expelliarmus

Posted 11 November 2012 - 02:21 PM

QUOTE (cira @ 11/11/2012, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can any teachers comment on why this action was chosen?

I am guessing that reports are strictly considered an admin activity outside of actual teaching. Are they typically written outside of work hours?

I am not in Victoria and not currently involved in any industrial action but this is essentially the reason as I understand it. The actions would be not just reports but a number of administrative functions that are outside core business of teaching and assessment. The information will all still exist, but teachers will not spend 60+ hours of their own time in addition to their 40+ hour working week, over the next 2-3 weeks writing them out in a specific format.

As to why it was chosen, because striking has had no impact on Ballieu and Victorian students are being disadvantaged by broken political promises.

#16 Expelliarmus

Posted 11 November 2012 - 02:23 PM

QUOTE (FluffyOscar @ 11/11/2012, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow, I'm really disappointed. I don't support this at all.

That's exactly the reaction desired. Make sure Ted hears your dissatisfaction.

#17 PatG

Posted 11 November 2012 - 02:28 PM

High school teachers can easily have 150+ students to write reports for (consider around 5 classes plus a roll class for example).  There is no way this can be done in "normal" work time.  Each one not only has to be written but also entered into a particular programme.  Typically each one is checked by another member of staff and then a head of department will also need to read it.  

If you specifically need more information about your child this term that you haven't received in prior report or during a parent teacher meeting please let your MP know and also contact the teacher and I'm sure they will be glad to talk to you about any concerns you have.

#18 Chocolate Addict

Posted 11 November 2012 - 02:29 PM

QUOTE (toc76 @ 11/11/2012, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As part of the industrial action union members are not writing full reports.  At our school union members still have to give an overall satisfactory or not satisfactory for each subject as well as the VELs progression points.  This is. At a secondary school so not sure what they are doing. Non members doing full reports.

Yep, this is what is happening at our school. You get a basic pass/fail type report but no 'little johnny needs to learn to..." type stuff.

It does take hours and is done after hours by the teachers, so their weekends and nights. My friend is a teacher and I always hear her complaining at report time !lol



#19 FluffyOscar

Posted 11 November 2012 - 02:33 PM

QUOTE (howdo @ 11/11/2012, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's exactly the reaction desired. Make sure Ted hears your dissatisfaction.

I'm sorry howdo but you misintepret me - I don't support teachers in this action. If the intention is to hurt parents to gain a political advantage, then I am disappointed in the lack of professionalism the teachers are showing.

Regarding your comment about the time it takes to write reports, I would have thought that the two weeks of recent Term break would have provided ample time for this.

#20 JKTMum

Posted 11 November 2012 - 02:37 PM

My kids go to a Catholic school, but a friend has her kids in one of the local primary schools and they have been told that although the kids will get a report with their grades on it (ie 'At standard', 'above standard' etc) there will be no teacher's comments to go with it. She is pretty peeved about it as it wont really give her any knowledge as to where her kids need extra assistance before next year (about 80% of kids fall into the 'At standard' category, the teachers comments are what most people really look at to see how their kids are really doing).

#21 PatG

Posted 11 November 2012 - 02:37 PM

QUOTE (FluffyOscar @ 11/11/2012, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Regarding your comment about the time it takes to write reports, I would have thought that the two weeks of recent Term break would have provided ample time for this.


I actually asked my cousin who is currently writing reports (not in Vc!) this last week when she was complaining about all the work she was going to have fit in in the next couple of weeks writing reports.  Her response was that the heads of department are really focused on the reports reflecting the full semester of progress, including performance in the end of term assessments, additionally the IT department hadn't yet set up the database to input the reports.

#22 mumtoactivetoddler

Posted 11 November 2012 - 02:42 PM

I support teachers in a lot of actions but I do not support that one at all. I think it is really wrong and think poorly of the teachers for doing it. I am in NSW and have a great teacher who gives plenty of feedback but I know other people who don't have that sort of great teacher.

#23 Soontobegran

Posted 11 November 2012 - 02:42 PM

QUOTE (FluffyOscar @ 11/11/2012, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Regarding your comment about the time it takes to write reports, I would have thought that the two weeks of recent Term break would have provided ample time for this.


Given the fact that most teachers have children who were home from school for term break then it may just not be as easy as you make it sound.
If you don't know by the end of the year how your child is going then there has been a serious breakdown in communication by the parents, the teacher or both.
Funny how some people can't see the forest for the trees. Do you honestly think it would have come to this if your children were not going to be negatively effected by the Government's broken promises on education anyway?

Children are still getting a report.

#24 FluffyOscar

Posted 11 November 2012 - 02:49 PM

QUOTE (soontobegran @ 11/11/2012, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Given the fact that most teachers have children who were home from school for term break then it may just not be as easy as you make it sound.

My children were in out of school hours care during the school holidays, because I was still working. I'm assuming lots of other parents also were, because it was quite busy.

QUOTE (soontobegran @ 11/11/2012, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Funny how some people can't see the forest for the trees. Do you honestly think it would have come to this if your children were not going to be negatively effected by the Government's broken promises on education anyway?

I could never behave so unprofessionally and expect to keep my job.

#25 Soontobegran

Posted 11 November 2012 - 02:49 PM

QUOTE (JKTMum @ 11/11/2012, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She is pretty peeved about it as it wont really give her any knowledge as to where her kids need extra assistance before next year (about 80% of kids fall into the 'At standard' category, the teachers comments are what most people really look at to see how their kids are really doing).


Just because the parents aren't getting in depth reports does not mean that there will be no record at the school about the areas of strength and weaknesses of the children. Teachers take notes constantly, children's needs get discussed and I would imagine if there was a true area of concern the parent would be made aware long before the last day of school.
There will be the necessary documentation for future teachers even without a full end of the year report that comes home.




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