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#1 Forum Moderator

Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:31 PM

New thread time ladies. Congrats to those who's babies have arrived eexcite.gif

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#2 indigo~

Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:49 PM

Thanks Mintie!

GOLD!  biggrin.gif

#3 Mum2TwoDSs

Posted 09 November 2012 - 04:38 AM

silver... rolleyes.gif

Was in a rush yesterday (when am I not ??) so didn't reply properly.

Indigo, I was emotional reading what you said about your emergency csect. So sorry that you had to undergo that ESP all the overwhelming emotions that came with it. I know I would feel the same if I had to go through delivering my bub earlier than I was ready...it was something constantly on my mind too after I experienced some contractions soon after returning from overseas at 28 weeks, even though my first one was born at 40 weeks, there's just so many fears cos this baby is IVF conceived.

I hope your csect wound heals soon. hugs!

Mums, does your bub have green poo? I haven't been changing nappies much as the nanny has been doing so, but yesterday when I did, I got a rude shock. Bubs poo was soft and dirty green (sorry tmi). Nanny said it was normal. I thought this would be due to fore milk hind milk but he doesn't take a lot of breast milk so I am puzzled. I tot this only happens to 100% BF bubs. Do you get that?

Bubs seemed to have an upset stomach was hungry but just couldn't drink from the bottle yesterday evening...Kept thrashing and struggling...After trying to burp him and applying peppermint oil mixture to his little tum, he finally burped and finished his milk. Started to wonder if I should get some gripe water or infacol.

Edited by Mum2TwoDSs, 09 November 2012 - 04:57 AM.

#4 Lorem ipsum

Posted 09 November 2012 - 01:27 PM


Hi All, long time no post, but I have been reading. Will do my best to remember, but new thread and all....

Puffs, Sorry that you are having trouble dealing with your birth, must have been very scary knowing things might not have been so good. I hope that you are able to find peace soon, having you be ok and DS being here and healthy is the most important thing, but your feelings are totally valid.

Kels, well done on keeping ticking off those milestones. Have you made any decision about trying for a VB?

Indigo Hope that DD is feeling a bit better with her reflux. I can relate, I hsd shocking heartburn when I was pregnant. That zantac is great stuff. Also sorry to hear that you are having mixed feelings towards your birth. On a different note, after your post about the carriers, I tried DS inthe ergobaby when he was grizzly, it is a hit, he settles in it really well. Now to try and get him to settle in his bed....

M2T I monitored my blood sugar for two days after the birth, and a my levels were all good. I hve to do the GTT again next week, so hopefully that is in the clear. I am using the medela SNS too. I like it much better than the bottle. Not sure if it is doing anything for my supply though....

Hi to Kate, PCM Frogga and anyone else

AFM We are doing well. I have a bit of a cold and am doing my best not to pass it on to DS. We ahd a bit of a milestone the other night, he slept through! DH came out in the morning (he is in the spare bed) really worried because he hadn't heard him cry during the night. Alas, it appears to have been a one of at this stage, but heading in the right direction.

Still having trouble with my supply too. Like M2T I have also set a time frame to stop taking all the extra measures (pumping, sns etc) to boost my supply. After that I will just comp feed until he is 4-5 months and hopefully drop the formula for people food.

Hope everyone is doing well original.gif

#5 Frogga78

Posted 09 November 2012 - 01:45 PM

Lorem - slept all night?!? Sooooo envious right now.

#6 Lorem ipsum

Posted 09 November 2012 - 02:46 PM

Yep, sorry!

#7 Wacky Wobbler

Posted 09 November 2012 - 03:09 PM

Whats sleeping all night?

I'm lucky that bub only wakes every 3 to 4 hours for a feed. I am getting the hang of bf but for some strange reason struggle feeding him with my left breast, he fusses when on it and i feel awkward feeding on that side.

We came home from the hospital today original.gif So nice to be back home, my cat is so scared of the baby. Its kind of funny to watch the cat run and hide everytime the baby even looks his way.

Having major issues with my BP post pregnancy. Saw a Doctor today who has said if it doesn't start coming down soon i will have to see a specialist.

My baby's poo's are like a mustard colour, which apparently is normal when your milk comes in. I cannot get over how many poos a little one can do.

I better go, will be back later with personals. Need to check on bub for the millionth time original.gif

#8 Kels22

Posted 10 November 2012 - 08:30 AM

Hi all,
I will pop back in when I can once I have read all your posts....things went down hill for me on weds so this will be a bit of a me post....sorry..

Got up Weds morning (7/11/12) felt fine and was making a cuppa in the kitchen when I gushed blood. It was everywhere, running down my legs...awful.  Rang the labour ward and then rang an ambulance and my DH.  Was told to lay down on my side till the paramedics arrived.  Within 10mins they were there and loading me into the ambulance.  I told them to take me to my chosen hospital but they didn't want to even though I said my OB was expecting me.  Thankfully my OB chose that time to ring and check on me so he spoke to them and said that he was ready for me with a theatre and anaethetist waiting.  I arrived at the hospital 15mins later and our DS (yes, its a boy!) arrived by emergency c-section 10mins later.  I was only 34wks and 2 days but he weighed 5lbs 10oz which is pretty good.

Unfortunately due to his early arrival, his lungs were immature so he was transferred to the NICU at another hospital to go on the CPAP machine.  He came off that yesterday morning and is now just on an oxygen tube across his face.  I got transferred to the same hospital as him a day later.  He is making improvements slowly but will be in hospital for 2-3wks sad.gif  Once he doesn't need the NICU support, he can go back to my preferred hospital to their special care nursery.  He's taking whatever I can express as well as getting some formula now that he's passing urine properly.

Thankfully, I got to be awake when he was born, the anaethatist wanted to give me a general but my OB said I could have the spinal instead and DH got to cut the cord.

Everything has been so overwhelming....the tears won't stop since last night and I am struggling to express.  The midwives can get 1-2mls of colostrum out of me but I can't and it's so frustrating...

Sorry this post is all over the shop.  If you want any other details please PM me.

#9 Kate128

Posted 10 November 2012 - 08:44 AM

Oh Kels, - what an experience. On one hand, what a shock for you Wednesday morning, but you did all the right things and that's a pretty fast turnaround to bubby coming out, pretty amazing. On the other hand - you're a mummy, so congratulations! 34 weeks is a fantastic achievement and your little one will be just fine. Don't worry about being a mess - you guys have been through a lot. It's really wonderful that your little boy is taking your EBM, and is improving with regards to breathing, and that you got to see the birth!, so try and focus on all those positives. You did a great job getting as far as you did and now you have a healthy little bubby who will be home with you before you know it xxxxx

Thinking of you xx

#10 Mum2TwoDSs

Posted 10 November 2012 - 12:47 PM

Oh Kels what an experience for you! Big hugs for being such a brave gal! And am very happy that both you and DS (and DH as well too, of course) are all fine. Thanks for coming in to update us. Enjoy your little prince! original.gif

#11 Wacky Wobbler

Posted 10 November 2012 - 03:45 PM

Kels - Congratulationson the birth of your baby boy. I know it may not of been the birth you had planned but at least your little boy is now safe. I hope he continues to thrive and you have him home soon with you.

#12 indigo~

Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:36 PM

Kels, congratulations hun, that's great that your precious bubba is safe and doing well. I know, it is overwhelming so take it a day at a time and focus on the outcome rather than the steps that got you there. You did a fantastic job to get to 34w2d. I bet your precious boy will be off cpap in no time and able to move into special care, then to home.

Ah expressing by hand and collecting in a syringe, I remember it well. I started off only getting 0.1ml at a time and even that tiny amount was treated like gold by the nurses and given to DD. Persevere and it will increase. My advice is to hire yourself a good hospital grade pump as you'll be spending alot of time expressing over the next few weeks so you want it to be efficient, and the hospital grade one's are much better at building your supply. I'm returning the medela symphony I hired for 2 months from the hospital pharmacy tomorrow. At times I hated the darn thing but it served us well.

If you would like to chat anytime, just PM me, ok?

Now, I found a great book today which I've only started reading but it seems really helpful so far. Written by an aussie pediatrician and full of good advice about caring for bubs in their first year., especially settling. I downloaded as an iBook From iTunes for $10. Here's the link...


#13 Frogga78

Posted 10 November 2012 - 10:14 PM

Congrats on your baby boy Kels - you have done a wonderful job!!!

Take care of yourself because these next few weeks will be even harder still with bubs staying in NICU and then the SCN.

DD was in for 4 1/2 weeks and you just go through the motions.

I remember vividly being told I had to produce something because DD was hungry and I was sitting there bawling, barely able to move and one of the midwives helped by doing it for me.

I got to cuddle DD about 24hours after she was born and those cuddles were what helped get me through.

Lots of love x

#14 Mum2TwoDSs

Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:23 AM

Har...the things we go through as mums....we are amazing!!!

#15 Kels22

Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:04 PM

Thanks for all the words of support!!

DS is only on optiflow now at a level of 2% which is nothing (apparently).  If they put him on his back he struggles a little with his breathing but on his tummy he's fine.  I hope to get another update after the NICU drs do their rounds tonight. Hopefully he'll be trialled on his own with no support in the next 24hrs to see how he goes.

I'm trying to be strong but the thought of leaving him in hospital makes me get so upset and I worry that he's not going to know me.

BF is slow going....it's slowly increasing..DH has been wonderful...he even went shopping today and bought a pump for me to use at home happy.gif

Keep your fingers crossed for some good news for me.


#16 Frogga78

Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:37 AM

Kels - he'll know you!! Trust me on this! Are you doing kangaroo care? Highly recommend it for both of you!

Talk to him and sing and he'll recognize your smell and your voice.

It's the hardest thing leaving him and I know I cried everyday for a month. One thing that helped me was to take some video footage of him on your phone  i used to watch it about 20 times before i went to sleep, have a little cry and brace myself for the next day  

Just try and get your sleep now because he will be home before you know it!

#17 Mum2TwoDSs

Posted 12 November 2012 - 05:59 AM

Kels, I would be really upset if I had to leave my baby in hosp. And your hormones are still all over the place. You sound really strong and positive. Know that he will be in good hands. Do rest well and eat well cos it is good for bringing milk in. And yes, keep using the pump. What pump did your dh get? Better a double pump with good motor for pumping round the clock. Have a read at the bfg forums too to learn as much. I am there often still, learning lots.  rolleyes.gif

And, he will know you! Right now he has to focus on growing well to go home with you. original.gif

#18 Lorem ipsum

Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:34 PM

Apologies for not replying sooner, but Kels, congratulations on your beautiful baby boy. I hope that he is going really well. I hope tha you are ok too. It is natural to feel how you are feeling, but he will definitely know you. Don't forget that he had 34 weeks hearing your voice and your heartbeat. He loves you already.

#19 Wacky Wobbler

Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:46 PM

Sorry but a big me post coming up.

I have tried so hard with breast feeding (even though it’s only been 10 days). Every 2nd day my milk seems to dry up, the baby still cannot latch on properly (even though we have both been shown a million times) and my poor nipples do not look like nipples anymore. The poor baby doesn’t know whether he will be breast fed, formula fed or expressed milk fed at a feed.

Yesterday I BF him all day only to realise I had no milk, no wonder he was so unsettled.

Today I had a visit from the MCHN and we did the PND test, which scored me at high risk. She asked what were my main issues and when I mentioned the BF she told me that I needed to do what was best for my sanity as at every feed I was feeling resentment towards the baby. So both DH and I have decided that BF isn’t for me. I will express every 3 hours and FF top up when needed. At the end of the day as long as the baby is getting a feed that is all that matters. It makes me sad that I cannot do something that is so natural but I really want to enjoy my baby, not grow to dislike him over something so stupid. Also I am hoping that by making this decision the tears may stop soon.

Anyone have any ideas about how to settle a baby off to sleep after a feed? The last 2 days and nights have been horrendous. Any ideas are most welcome!

Hope everyone is doing well.

#20 Mum2TwoDSs

Posted 14 November 2012 - 07:38 PM

Puff, my baby usually will doze off to sleep with a full tummy. For example, he was very alert this morning for a while, at 730am, after having 90 ml of milk (which was out of the norm as usually he would have a morning nap), so I fed him another 60ml at 900am,  and he was able to drift off to sleep.

It is normal for them to keep waking if their tummy isnt full. Not sure if that is the reason for your baby not to settle to sleep.

We have tried using a dummy to settle him but he doesnt like it very much.

Usually if he still doesnt settle after a full tummy of formula, I would then nurse him which settles him quite well. (Right now he is propped up on my bfg pillow nursing after his formula and is settled while I type this post).

Try to make sure nappy is clean, then swaddle, then feed, then burp, then let him sleep. My baby can fall asleep on his own most times but there are times when I have to nurse him.

Also, I like to turn on white noise in the background (quite loud to work) eg rain, to muffle any sudden loud noise that can startle baby, as I have a 7YO who runs around like an elephant and speaks really loudly.

I do have an automatic swing but I havent resorted to using that yet in settling him to sleep.

What times does he not settle? It could be hunger, discomfort (too hot or too cold), needs burping as wind really is miserable stuff, or nappy change.

For wind, I find my baby fussing a lot if he needs to burp. He can be hungry and wanting to drink but fussing away. If so, I would try burping him, and he does indeed burp, and then will be able to drink thereafter.

I hope what i share is somewhat helpful.

Remember not to beat yourself up about bfg. I am very disappointed too and am still trying (not so hard now, learning to let go now) to nurse him as much as possible. Due to my diabetes, he has taken formula in a bottle in hospital and now he is used to fast flow of the bottle and even though he loves nursing at my breasts, he doesnt work hard to help my supply. We are caught in this vicious cycle and I am fighting a losing battle. I am angry, angry at the MWs who insisted he would not have any issue with bfg even with bottle feeding. They made me feel so lousy for resisting the bottle and I gave in! I so wanted this round to work as it didnt work out with DS1 due to me not being educated.

I am taking it day by day. I find the pump doesnt help me with increasing supply so I am not expressing exclusively anymore. Perhaps it may work for you, so try doing it at least 8 times a day and see if you can get your supply in asap as you are only at day 10. You did manage to get 100ml in 5 mins per breast so it should be possible. I have never got that before. MCHN says it can take up to 6 weeks for supply to establish. Meanwhile, giving your baby formula isnt the end of the world. Once you establish your supply you can slowly wean your baby off formula and give him EBM via a bottle. You would want your nipples to heal which is very important too.

Please know that you are doing your best as a mother despite how you are feeling. Sometimes these emotions are beyond our control. It's very much hormonal. Please come back anytime if you need help. We will be here.

#21 Mum2TwoDSs

Posted 14 November 2012 - 07:55 PM

Oh I just want to share that I have a friend whose baby was both formula and breast fed since birth. She comp fed as she had low supply. At the 3rd month her baby decided she would reject the bottle and just wanted to have her mummy's boobs. That miraculously caused my friend to start producing a lot of milk and she bf for 3 years!

This story just stuck in my head. Though I find that hard to believe it would happen to me (as my boy just doesnt work hard at my boobs now) but miracles do happen!

#22 indigo~

Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:05 AM

Gosh, it's a shame we're all having such a hard time with the breastfeeding. I'm so frustrated that despite trying every trick in the book, we're still all struggling.

My supply is still insufficient after almost 10w of supplemental pumping, fenugreek, motilium, nursing tea, frequent (omg so frequent!) feeds. We still do 11-12 feeds in a 24 hr period. Today I had to give 3 lots of top ups as DD must be going through a growth spurt and she'd get hugely frustrated on the boob as there wasn't enough for her. I go from left to right to left to right and she gets cranky, throwing her head around while attached (major ouch). and dry sucking really hurts.

Unfortunately she doesn't settle even with a full tummy. She just will not sleep at all during the day, has to be in someone's arms, cries for no reason I can fathom. Hates the pram, hates the car seat, hates the bouncer, hates the expensive swing I bought as a last resort. Is now hating the carrier too. I really hope this is just a phase and she'll grow out of it, but it may take a while. She's 10w on Saturday but still only 3w corrected, so a little while to go till the 3-4 month age where this all improves.

Big hugs to you all. It's great to be able to come in here and share with people who understand! Xo

#23 Lorem ipsum

Posted 15 November 2012 - 01:44 AM

It is hard luck that we all seem to be struggling. At  least all our babies are being loved. Everyone has said to me that it doesn't`matter how they  are fed, but stillmakes you sad.

Puffs how do you feel about using a dummy? I didn't really want to, but dh insisted. It is a really good tool. Sucking is supposed to calm them, especially when they're so littlet.

Indigo did you find your supply increasing at all after 6weeks? I am at the point of giving up attempt s to increase my supply and I am pretty sad about it. Just wondering if there is any hope of a late surge in supply?

Edited by Lorem ipsum, 15 November 2012 - 01:57 AM.

#24 indigo~

Posted 15 November 2012 - 03:49 AM

Lorem, now that you mention it, yes, I definitely did see an improvement after 6w.

From about that point on, I went a whole week without needing to give formula top ups (did give some EBM top ups tho). I had thought I had turned the corner.

Since the 6w mark, I have had runs of days where I havent had to use formula, then she must go through a growth spurt or I'm particularly tired or haven't eaten/drank enough and I'll need to use it.

Leading up to 6w, I was needing to use formula every day.

Unfortunately DD won't accept a dummy these days. We only had the first few times it was offered that she wanted it. I have seen her sneak her thumb in her mouth a couple of times tho!

#25 Mum2TwoDSs

Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:28 AM

Lorem, did you let DS nurse at breasts or pump? How's it going with the SNS?

Are formula are you girls using? I am using Bellamy's organic.

Edited by Mum2TwoDSs, 15 November 2012 - 06:29 AM.

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