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#1 key_gal

Posted 08 November 2012 - 09:24 AM

Hey,
One of my friend who had a perfect pregnancy and never had any m/s or anything was chidding me for having laksa last night.

I know I am not meant to eat raw stuff, under cooked and soft cheeses. But many people like this friend also has a 101 other items on their swear to avoid list.

So far shes told me not to touch the following:
High fat stuff i.e. coconut milk in the laksa and curry
shell fish - anything from prawns to mussels, something about I will get allergic reaction or may be baby might. I dunno I have never had any reaction so far
Big fishes - tuna salmon etc for mercury
Chai lattes - no chai, or more specifically no spices should be consumed. This include star annise cinamon etc etc of stuff in chinese five spice mix. This essentially then means most chinese food which are roasted should be avoided such as roast duck because the five spice is used in there.
Chilli - makes constipation worse.

From other sources of information:
No eggplants, no watercress, no saffron, no woodear (fungus), no bittermelon. All are linked someway by some type of culture to m/c.

For fruits, Chinese TCM says no lychees, mangos, longans, durians, papayas.

#2 key_gal

Posted 08 November 2012 - 09:26 AM

by the way I am not avoiding all these Ihave listed completely. Just trying to compile a list. Some times its just too hard to avoid all of these when you are eating out.

#3 akkiandmalli

Posted 08 November 2012 - 09:38 AM

OP to be honest i think your friend is a little OTT..
i want to know how do indian/sri lankans have babyies with this list of nonos?

High fat stuff i.e. coconut milk in the laksa and curry
shell  fish - anything from prawns to mussels, something about I will get  allergic reaction or may be baby might. I dunno I have never had any  reaction so far
Big fishes - tuna salmon etc for mercury
Chai  lattes - no chai, or more specifically no spices should be consumed.  This include star annise cinamon etc etc of stuff in chinese five spice  mix. This essentially then means most chinese food which are roasted  should be avoided such as roast duck because the five spice is used in  there.
Chilli - makes constipation worse.


my MIL was pumping curries with chilli, fish and spices into me a few weeks ago to make a strong baby!! as for the fruits i am still laughing pregnant sri lankan women eat buckets of mangos:)

i think as you eat in moderation and have a varied diet you will be fine..

#4 Tesseract

Posted 08 November 2012 - 09:46 AM

Came in from recent topics. Your friends is an idiot, and one who should keep her opinions to herself. Eat what you want. Heaven help you if the baby is fussy and you're breastfeeding, she'll have you on a diet of steamed carrot and water!

There is no basis to anything she's saying.

#5 key_gal

Posted 08 November 2012 - 09:52 AM

Yeah, I am not really following it and was little defensive when told to eat more small fish like anchovies cos i hate them. and the comment given back was its not for u its for the baby just swallow them whole.

and then more list came with root vegetables. apparently they pick up toxins from ground more than leafy vegetables because they are grown in the ground. so actually you need to limit carrot and potato etc.

also i know we cant eat pate which i though is because of bacterial concerns. seems like its the vit A in it. So its actually livers which we need to avoid.

#6 Ruf~Feral~es

Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:02 AM

QUOTE (Tesseract @ 08/11/2012, 07:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Came in from recent topics. Your friends is an idiot, and one who should keep her opinions to herself. Eat what you want. Heaven help you if the baby is fussy and you're breastfeeding, she'll have you on a diet of steamed carrot and water!

There is no basis to anything she's saying.


THis +1

Just relax and enjoy your pregnancy.  There are few obvious things not to eat for health related reasons and a few things you could eat more of (if you like them) for nutritional reasons. The rest is just old wives tales.

What does she think women in asian countries eat when they are pregnant?  SPices are fine.  And chilli can cause the opposite of constipation - she really has no idea!

Healthy diet, lots of fresh fruit and veges (but not preprepared salads) and everything in moderation.  It's not that hard, even when other people try to make it so.

Edited by Ruffles, 08 November 2012 - 10:02 AM.


#7 Gel_Bel

Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:06 AM

Some of my friends in the past have gone totally crazy with the pregnancy diet. But to be honest, most of it is a load of crap. Women have been having babies since the dawn of time! It makes me angry to see how totally silly we must seem to other cultures who eat different foods to us. Curries, fresh vegetables etc., seem perfectly fine to me.

I say eat what you want in moderation and stay away from old/stale food. Tell your friend thanks for the advice, and then ignore her if you want.

#8 key_gal

Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:13 AM

The word moderation i guess is different to all. I havent had laksa for abt 2 mths since begining of preganancy. So i thought yeah one time is not big deal plus shellfish is troublesome to cook so i eat it once may be fortnightly/weekly if i eat out. I dun cook it myself.

She also said she reduced shellfish intake to moderate consumption. So I asked her how many times she had it in her pregnancy. She said may be twice in the 9 months.

#9 FeralMuddyPuddles

Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:29 AM

Sorry but your friend is a bit crazy!

The only thing I wouldn't eat in Laksa is the bean sprouts they put on top. Everything else on that list is perfectly fine. Mango and papaya are almost all I am surviving on at present.

#10 Gel_Bel

Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:40 AM

QUOTE (key_gal @ 08/11/2012, 10:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The word moderation i guess is different to all. I havent had laksa for abt 2 mths since begining of preganancy. So i thought yeah one time is not big deal plus shellfish is troublesome to cook so i eat it once may be fortnightly/weekly if i eat out. I dun cook it myself.

She also said she reduced shellfish intake to moderate consumption. So I asked her how many times she had it in her pregnancy. She said may be twice in the 9 months.



I guess when I say moderation I mean don't eat a pot full of laksa in one go. Just have a bowl when you feel like it. Or don't sit down and eat 1kg of chocolate, just have a piece. Frequency of consumption in pregnancy depends, for me, on my cravings...I'm craving cucumber sandwiches, so I have them when I'm hungry...which is all the time. biggrin.gif
zaacaa- totally agree!

#11 key_gal

Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:23 AM

What about caffiene?

I am having a half strength latte daily in the morning, no tea or soft drinks. It is within the safety limit. Still attracts disapprovals tho. Especially when I had spotting, the response was.. why are u so worried when u dont even give up coffee for ur baby.

#12 Lainskii

Posted 08 November 2012 - 12:28 PM

Half strength latte is fine as you allowed caffeine in pregnancy, just not too much
This is from NSW Gov fact sheet

Doctors recommend that pregnant women have no more than two to four cups of coffee or tea (about 200 mg of caffeine) a day.

The only things from your 'friends' list would be the bean sprouts on the laksa but I use to just ask for the laksa without the sprouts.
Seafood is ok as long as it is cooked and she is correct about the large fish because of the mercury risk .

I found this website really helpful

http://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/_Docum...cy-brochure.pdf

#13 key_gal

Posted 08 November 2012 - 12:31 PM

QUOTE (Lainskii @ 08/11/2012, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Half strength latte is fine as you allowed caffeine in pregnancy, just not too much
This is from NSW Gov fact sheet

Doctors recommend that pregnant women have no more than two to four cups of coffee or tea (about 200 mg of caffeine) a day.

The only things from your 'friends' list would be the bean sprouts on the laksa but I use to just ask for the laksa without the sprouts.
Seafood is ok as long as it is cooked and she is correct about the large fish because of the mercury risk .

I found this website really helpful

http://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/_Docum...cy-brochure.pdf


Yeah I either pick them off or request them not to add the sprouts. It was more the coconut and prawns she was concerned about

#14 PigNewton

Posted 08 November 2012 - 12:40 PM

OP your friend is a fool. I actually deliberately ate spicy and strong flavoured food while I was pregnant as I'd read somewhere that some flavours could cross into the amniotic fluid and it helped to develop the baby's palate. I also did the same while I was breastfeeding so Owen would get all of the different flavours.
FTR I'm aware that it sounds impossible, but some things really do permeate the body when you eat them ie when you eat garlic you can end up with garlicky sweat.

#15 Mrs Lost Wanderer

Posted 08 November 2012 - 12:41 PM

QUOTE (key_gal @ 08/11/2012, 09:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey,
One of my friend who had a perfect pregnancy and never had any m/s or anything was chidding me for having laksa last night.

I know I am not meant to eat raw stuff, under cooked and soft cheeses. But many people like this friend also has a 101 other items on their swear to avoid list.

So far shes told me not to touch the following:
High fat stuff i.e. coconut milk in the laksa and curry
shell fish - anything from prawns to mussels, something about I will get allergic reaction or may be baby might. I dunno I have never had any reaction so far
Big fishes - tuna salmon etc for mercury
Chai lattes - no chai, or more specifically no spices should be consumed. This include star annise cinamon etc etc of stuff in chinese five spice mix. This essentially then means most chinese food which are roasted should be avoided such as roast duck because the five spice is used in there.
Chilli - makes constipation worse.

From other sources of information:
No eggplants, no watercress, no saffron, no woodear (fungus), no bittermelon. All are linked someway by some type of culture to m/c.

For fruits, Chinese TCM says no lychees, mangos, longans, durians, papayas.



Now this is what I don't understand at all. Avoiding spicy foods because they are bad for you, the baby or both during pregnancy and breast feeding. I want to know what most of Asia, Middle East, Mexico and South America do during their pregnancies and while breast feeding because it wouldn't leave much left for them to eat.

I was also told to stop onions and garlic because apparently they make breast milk taste funny. . I eat onions on an almost daily basis whether it's salad, homemade soups, casseroles, pasta sauces. My response was that my babies don't know what "normal" breast milk tastes like so they have nothing to compare flavours to.



#16 kate_123

Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:00 PM

As far as caffeine goes, I don't normally have caffeine cause im hypersensitive to it but when I saw my ob the other week he actually advised me to start having some caffeine in the mornings to help with raise my blood pressure! So Im guessing a coffee a day is fine!

#17 key_gal

Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:03 PM

QUOTE (Lainskii @ 08/11/2012, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Half strength latte is fine as you allowed caffeine in pregnancy, just not too much
This is from NSW Gov fact sheet

Doctors recommend that pregnant women have no more than two to four cups of coffee or tea (about 200 mg of caffeine) a day.

The only things from your 'friends' list would be the bean sprouts on the laksa but I use to just ask for the laksa without the sprouts.
Seafood is ok as long as it is cooked and she is correct about the large fish because of the mercury risk .

I found this website really helpful

http://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/_Docum...cy-brochure.pdf


I have seen this fact sheet before and generally follow its rules. Its the other ones which are not on the list that most people tell you about and to make it worse it seldom is supported with scientific research. Most will say.. "its better to safe than sorry so just dont eat so n so"... or "doctors will not tell you everything, they dont want to scare u, so you need to do more than what they say"...

#18 adl

Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:21 PM

Agree with PP

And its being debated whether a restrictive diet leads to food issues,  limited palates etc... I think she is very OTT and just smile nod and ignore

I avoid sprouts, most seafood, sushi  - I never eat them anyway!!

I dont eat liver and kidneys - I love but its undecided

I have a skim latte a day... small not large  ( under 200gm recommendation)

Its what your body is used to,  and of course a food poisoning risk...



#19 Feral Grey Mare

Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:26 PM

The only thing I gave up when b/f ing was corn as it seemed to give babies belly-ache. Had insatiable cravings for sardine sandwiches all through my first pregnancy.

#20 MrsR87

Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:20 PM

I don't have sushi (miss is so much), soft cheeses, ham, any food that is over a day old. I make sure I only get well done steaks and that everything is cooked properly.

I am already fussy enough as it is. I don't eat seafood and a range of other foods.

So would no pre-prepared salads mean Sumo Salad is out?

#21 ellik

Posted 08 November 2012 - 07:03 PM

Your friend is def OTT. Mmm..maybe a gentle back off is in order so she doesnt keep upsetting you and stressing you out. That comment about the caffeine vs spotting is just bang out of order, dont listen to it.

#22 puppykat

Posted 08 November 2012 - 08:17 PM

Agree with NSW fact sheet - most of the stuff on there seems common sense. The weirdest no no I have heard is soft serve - not that I even want to eat it with the nausea lately, but I can't imagine what bacteria resides in that weird synthetic goo?

#23 fireylee

Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:17 PM

Here's a question ... would you eat a tuna subway? Am craving one desperately.

#24 monkeys mum

Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:54 PM

QUOTE (fireylee @ 08/11/2012, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's a question ... would you eat a tuna subway? Am craving one desperately.


I would, but then I also eat deli ham, and other things some wouldn't.

Only thing I have done is stop drinking coffee as i can't stomach it anymore.

I have also read that Edam and Feta is ok too, bit excited about that as I found an awesome feta that is so yummy on salads and home made pizzas lol

#25 Tesseract

Posted 09 November 2012 - 12:10 AM

QUOTE (key_gal @ 08/11/2012, 12:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What about caffiene?

I am having a half strength latte daily in the morning, no tea or soft drinks. It is within the safety limit. Still attracts disapprovals tho. Especially when I had spotting, the response was.. why are u so worried when u dont even give up coffee for ur baby.


That is a seriously awful thing to say!

I think your friend actually has some serious problems. Some people like to go on restrictive diets because it gives them a false sense of control. She is probably very scared about something happening to her baby and this is her way of dealing with it. It's not about you or your diet, it's actually about her anxiety. Just smile and nod, then ignore her. You can say something like "well my OB/midwife said it was fine" then change the subject.

Ask your care provider and do your own research.

And enjoy your pregnancy!




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