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#1 Vanilla-Cupcakes

Posted 05 November 2012 - 04:40 PM

Would like your opinions/any info you have.

My son is now 3 weeks old, and we decided he wouldn't have the hep b vacc at birth, but would have it at 6-8 week check up.

Well today after discussions with some friends who are mums, we got onto the topic of autism risk. There were mixed opinions, but I heard today that some studies show males are at higher risk of autism!?

Therefore, I'm now wondering whether there is a 'safer' age for vaccinations, or any other info that might put my mind at rest with this whole issue. At this stage, I want him fully vaccinated with the vaccination program, but I'm now a bit scared.

#2 Milly Molly Mandy

Posted 05 November 2012 - 04:45 PM

There is no link between vax and autism, whoever told you this is wrong.

Congrats by the way.

Edited by Milly Molly Mandy, 05 November 2012 - 04:48 PM.


#3 Tenacious C

Posted 05 November 2012 - 04:49 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/05/v...t_n_805036.html

Only a news article - but essentially Wakefields findings were debunked some time ago. I'm sure there are other members who will be able to post other sources.

#4 Soontobegran

Posted 05 November 2012 - 04:51 PM

There are no studies that show that there is any connection.....in fact the studies refute that suggestion.
Your friends are an example of the frustratingly ill informed and uneducated with regards to vaccination I am afraid.

#5 Vanilla-Cupcakes

Posted 05 November 2012 - 04:55 PM

Thanks for the info so far!

#6 Ice Queen

Posted 05 November 2012 - 04:56 PM

Please vaccinate your baby with the gov program.

#7 ninaswalk

Posted 05 November 2012 - 04:56 PM

I believe there is a higher rate of autism in boys but it has nothing to do with vaccines.

There was an interesting segment on a current affairs program  (4 corners maybe??) a while back showing a possible link between prolonged use of antibiotics in young children and autism.  I haven't looked into it too much and am not sure of the research that has been done am not saying there's a definite  link, but there was some evidence of this within the case studies they showed.

#8 Starrydawn

Posted 05 November 2012 - 04:57 PM

There is no link  between the two.

If your child is going to have autism they will regardless of vaccination status. Go vaccinate and protect your children from harmful diseases which there is a link between.

Edited by Chedasha, 05 November 2012 - 04:58 PM.


#9 Vanilla-Cupcakes

Posted 05 November 2012 - 04:58 PM

Ehill, I had decided I would anyway. I technically have to for him to go to child care so I can return to work. Plus I, along with all of my family have been vaccinated fully. But I'm just anxious now. And I was just thinking whether it's best to wait for a certain age (months etc)

#10 elmo_mum

Posted 05 November 2012 - 05:06 PM

bah humbug

there is no link!

even if there was i would take a healthy vaccinated child with autism over the risk of death with no vaccines!!!!!




i will gracefully get off my horse now....

#11 Vanilla-Cupcakes

Posted 05 November 2012 - 05:07 PM

Good point elmo mum

#12 tenar

Posted 05 November 2012 - 05:11 PM

The only thing waiting will do is increase the time he is most vulnerable to those diseases which can and do kill, and are on the up here and in other countries.  Of course that trend is partly because of the anti-vaccine movement's efforts, and the result is dead and injured children (and adults, of course - babies are not the only members of our community who are very vulnerable).  

Having your child vaccinated is hard, OP.  I think it's a case where our "mummy instinct" plays us very wrong, because it's awful taking them in and watching someone hurt them and hearing them cry as a result.  But the research on the matter is extremely clear - vaccines save lives.  So while it's not an easy thing to do, it's the right thing to do for almost all of us (not including people with immune issues and whatever medical reasons not to vaccinate, of course).  

You can currently get babies vaccinated from 6 weeks of age.  Seeing as there is still a whooping cough epidemic going on, I'd be getting him in there ASAP, especially if some of your friend's don't vaccinate their kids, as they are more likely than vaccinated people to bring you into contact with a vaccine-preventable illness.

#13 Vanilla-Cupcakes

Posted 05 November 2012 - 05:15 PM

Thanks tenar original.gif

#14 noonehere

Posted 05 November 2012 - 05:16 PM

There is no link between the two. You are born with it or your not.

#15 kez71

Posted 05 November 2012 - 05:17 PM

there are soo many opinions about vacinations. From my own research I feel that the only thing to concider is that you don't give them vacinations while they are already sick, even just sniffles. Make sure baby is happy and healthy on the day, so if they do have a reaction they have a better chance to allow their little bodies to recover. If they are already sick then its like a double whammy.

#16 B.feral3

Posted 05 November 2012 - 05:29 PM

QUOTE (kez71 @ 05/11/2012, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
there are soo many opinions about vacinations. From my own research I feel that the only thing to concider is that you don't give them vacinations while they are already sick, even just sniffles. Make sure baby is happy and healthy on the day, so if they do have a reaction they have a better chance to allow their little bodies to recover. If they are already sick then its like a double whammy.


This is the reason why my doctor WON'T give vaccinations if children come in pre-dosed on Panadol. If they do have a temp,, even mild, he can't tell. I've been seeing him for 8 years now and I know he gets annoyed when people come in who have given their kids medicine first.

OP, your friends are misinformed. They even give tiny prems vaccinations. It's one of the only things they do do actual age, not corrected age.

#17 FeralFerretOfDoom

Posted 05 November 2012 - 05:41 PM

OP, please be very careful about asking internet randoms for opinions on this. There are a lot of people out there who present themselves as "experts" who know all about vaccination, but who aren't much more than fear-mongers presenting disinformation.

Ask for opinions by all means, but please discuss any information you get with your GP to get an informed medical opinion.

#18 Vanilla-Cupcakes

Posted 05 November 2012 - 05:41 PM

Thanks everyone, I feel much better after reading your replies original.gif

#19 Mille-Mille

Posted 05 November 2012 - 05:45 PM

I agree with everyone else, Autism and Vaccinations have nothing  to do with one another.

#20 rjflc69

Posted 05 November 2012 - 09:19 PM

QUOTE (WootFerretOfDoom @ 05/11/2012, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OP, please be very careful about asking internet randoms for opinions on this. There are a lot of people out there who present themselves as "experts" who know all about vaccination, but who aren't much more than fear-mongers presenting disinformation.

Ask for opinions by all means, but please discuss any information you get with your GP to get an informed medical opinion.


As Moderator of the General Health & Safety Tips section I agree with the above post.  

By all means feel free to obtain opinions but if you are concerned or have any specific questions about vaccinating your baby please bring these up with your GP.





#21 ~ky~

Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:27 AM

OP ... I have son with ASD. Due to my DD having an adverse reaction to her first vaccinstion, I delayed her next vaccination until she was 3yo and DS received his first vaccination at 3yo.

DS was already showing signs of ASD long before he had any form of vaccination at all.

#22 FlamingoG

Posted 11 November 2012 - 02:45 AM

When I was a bit nervous about DD's 6 week vaccinations my scientist friend lent me Bad Science, a book of Articles by Ben Goldacre (UK Guardian newspaper). I found the chapter on vax rumours a fascinating, infuriating and ultimately very reassuring read (and I'm the least scientific person I know). I recommend it highly, OP.

#23 AdelTwins

Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:28 AM

First off let me just say that as a "woman of science" I do not believe there is a link between vaccinations and autism.

However, I do believe that most of the autism-vaccination hype is based on the MMR vaccine (12 months).

I STRONGLY reccomend that you vaccinate bubs with the 2, 4 & 6 months shots. You have plenty of time to do your research between now and your scheduled MMR shot.

Also, get a whooping cough shot for yourself and anyone else close to bubs.

In the end, after reading many articles I vaccinated both of my sons in line with the government schedule (including MMR).

#24 Vanilla-Cupcakes

Posted 12 November 2012 - 09:47 PM

Thank you so much everyone! Really appreciate it! Ive decided DS will be getting vaccinated in 2 weeks at 6 week check original.gif




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