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#1 outdoorgirl81

Posted 04 November 2012 - 03:46 PM

Hi All,

My husband and I have been researching putting a forward facing seat in the front seat of his landtrooper for our 2 yo so he can pick her up from daycare. We have confirmed it is legal, and the local RACV will fit a restraint attachment. It is a 5 minute drive from home, 50kmhr all the way, no major roads. There are no front seat airbags. I feel comfortable with the risk level of this situation, but I wanted to get other's opinion, is there a factor I am not considering?

Thanks in advance.

#2 Rainbow Brite

Posted 04 November 2012 - 03:50 PM

Never in a million years would I risk my small child sitting in the front seat, even in a child seat/reatraint. I am actually shocked that this is legal.

#3 Freddie'sMum

Posted 04 November 2012 - 03:53 PM

Honest to God OP - I thought it was illegal.

We are in NSW and I am pretty sure that the basic rule is that kids under the age of 7 years old - the backseat is the safest for them - and then if you have a backseat full of 3, 4 and 5 years old - only then can you put a 7 year old in the front seat.

I would definitely double check the legality of doing this.  Who did you ask ??

#4 causeway

Posted 04 November 2012 - 03:55 PM

It is legal. It is up to the individual to make this decision for their child. FTR - we have done this in our ute twice when circumstances have required it. Our 2 seater commodore ute has an anchor point as standard.

#5 outdoorgirl81

Posted 04 November 2012 - 03:57 PM

Can a restraint go in the front seat of van or utility that has only one row of seats?

If there is only one row of seats, it is legal to use a child restraint or booster seat in the front row provided there is a seatbelt and a child restraint anchorage point available. Note: some booster seats do not need to be anchored – if there is a tether strap on the booster seat it must be used.

Don't know how to do the "quote" text, sorry, the above is from the Vicroads website (the official government body that regulates roads.

His car  is basically a truck, there is only one row of seats. I completely understand that that the backseat is the safest place for a young child, and there are many legal ways of restraining kids I would choose to avoid, a baby on my lap in a taxi for example. So being legal is not enough for me. I;m not talking about kids in the front seat in general, I'm working through the risk of this particular situation.

Edited by outdoorgirl81, 04 November 2012 - 04:01 PM.

#6 LookMumNoHands

Posted 04 November 2012 - 04:01 PM

Yep, it's legal. Only if there isn't a back seat of course.

I don't think you've missed anything. Not that I can think of anyway.

#7 iwanttosleepin

Posted 05 November 2012 - 12:46 AM

I would have no issues using the front seat in this situation.

As you have said - no back seats, no airbags, appropriate sized seat anchored correctly.

The use of the front seat for children in restraints is common in other countries. Including Sweden, the child car safety gurus!

#8 MrsLexiK

Posted 05 November 2012 - 06:13 AM

I would not have any issues with that and to be honest will be doing it ourselves. Whilst I plan on keeping our baby rf past 6 months if I have to ff in the ute I am comfortable with that. I am not going out to spend $$ on another car when we have a perfectly good car here that the situation may arise only a few times a year.

#9 Emby

Posted 05 November 2012 - 06:36 AM

I think you're already ahead of the game if you have the car restraint fitted correctly, she's strapped in properly each time, and she's only going to be in it for five minutes at a stretch. Bonus if he doesn't speed. You seem to have covered all the bases, and would totally do it myself.

#10 Tenacious C

Posted 05 November 2012 - 06:49 AM

In a proper restraint, professionally fitted and no airbags - you have all bases covered. I see no issues.

To the PPs it is not illegal if the vehicle does not have a back seat.

#11 FuzzyMum

Posted 05 November 2012 - 07:11 AM

QUOTE (Freddie'sMum @ 04/11/2012, 04:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Honest to God OP - I thought it was illegal.

We are in NSW and I am pretty sure that the basic rule is that kids under the age of 7 years old - the backseat is the safest for them - and then if you have a backseat full of 3, 4 and 5 years old - only then can you put a 7 year old in the front seat.

That is if there is a backseat. There are many vehicles without backseats.

OP, sounds like you have done your research and covered every base. I also see no issues.

#12 Soontobegran

Posted 05 November 2012 - 07:21 AM

There are many 'tradie' dads with one row of seats only legally picking up their children in a properly fitted child restraints in the car beside them.

As long as air bags are off I'd rather they were there than floating around or sitting in the adult seat belt.
It may not be ideal but it has been deemed safe.

#13 marley*and*me

Posted 05 November 2012 - 02:12 PM

We have been doing it for years with my husbands work car. He has an isuzu truck and once they reach one they can travel with him. He does daycare and school runs three days a week and my kids love riding high up with the big windscreen.

We use a hipod with inbuilt harness for my 3yo and a sns booster for the 5yo.  That said we did have to have the anchor point put in by Isuzu at our own cost!

#14 outdoorgirl81

Posted 05 November 2012 - 08:47 PM

Thanks all for your wise and sensible replies. We've decided to go ahead with it. The difference this will make to the smooth running of our lives is enormous!

#15 Poss and Soss

Posted 05 November 2012 - 08:55 PM

QUOTE (outdoorgirl81 @ 05/11/2012, 08:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks all for your wise and sensible replies. We've decided to go ahead with it. The difference this will make to the smooth running of our lives is enormous!

Sounds reasonable to me. Legal and the appropriate seat professionally installed.

I realise the safest would be for us all to drive a tank and have a police escort but in the real world you do what you have to!

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