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#1 Forum Moderator

Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:41 PM

New thread time ladies.

Here's the link to your old thread.

Cheers,
~Mintie~

#2 Allie_D

Posted 29 October 2012 - 10:27 PM

GOLD!!
Not being able to sleep has paid off! tongue.gif

#3 Alana Banana

Posted 29 October 2012 - 11:33 PM

Silver original.gif wow never been silver original.gif

#4 Iliketoflounce

Posted 30 October 2012 - 05:12 AM

Bronze Im still around I think I may have Oed yesterday so 2ww is here now

Bronze Im still around I think I may have Oed yesterday so 2ww is here now

#5 AmberSpark

Posted 31 October 2012 - 04:15 PM

The
Endurance Team


"When you get to the top ofthe mountain, keep climbing."

Welcome to the Endurance Team!
We are a group of ladies who have been doing thehard yards while waiting for our first miracles. Most of us have been tryingfor 12 months or more and we have been through every up and down imaginable. Ifyou have endured this journey far longer and harder than you ever intended, youare most welcome here for support, a shoulder and most importantly, hope.

Name: Mish*J
Age: 37
Enduring Since: April 2010
The Facts: Lap : May 2011 Endo and cyst removed
DF: Low Sperm Count - Abnormal
First IVF: May 12 = 2 Embyros BFN
FET - August 12 = BFN
Second IVF: October 12 = BFN
FET - 2013 - Maybe



Name: Ali (Ali88)
Age: 28
Enduring Since:July 2010
The Facts: Lap - Nov 2009 Endo (mild) removed
Otherwise, both DH & I "normal"
Acupuncture/Herbs since June 2011
FS appointment booked for 31.01.2012, not sure what I hope to gain from it....

Name: hoping4bubs
Age: 32 (in Nov)
Enduring Since: Aug 2008
The Facts: No reason for inferility. HYCOSY showed all clear. DH has good spermcount.
3rd round of clomid 100mg, will give 1 more month to try and the IVF clinicappointment mid March.

Name: Bigwoo
Age: 34 DH: 34
Enduring since: August 2010
Unexplained infertility. First FS appointment Oct 2011.
Polypectomy December 2011. IVF#1 May 2012

Name: XFingersAndToes
Age: 32
Enduring Since: Jan 2011
The Facts (thus far)
Me low ovarian reserve
DP low sperm count and motility and high abnormality

Name: Thalandria
Age: 29
TTC Since - Dec 2010
The Facts -
Not really any to speak of so far. Just about to start the journey with thedoctors testing and then FS. No medical reason that we know of so far.

Name: PennysLane - Sarah
Age: 23
Enduring since: February 2011
The facts: Just started getting results back, found out today I don't ovulate.DH so far so good

Name: Lainey
Age: 33
Enduring since: mid 2008
The facts: first FS missed the problems despite lap/hysteroscopy - fibroids andendometriosis finally removed Feb 2012, mild PCOS
Starting tracking cycle end May after a few weeks away

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Name: Daisy
Age: 38
Enduring Since: Oct 2009
The Facts : Unexplained recurrent miscarriages.

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Name: njik
Age: 36
Enduring Since: June 2011
The Facts: AMH: 2.6 (Dec 11), all other bloods in normal range.
FS recommends IVF but trying acupuncture/herbs until end of year (since March 2012)
Also taking DHEA.
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Name: Minnieme4me (Nadia)
Age: 21
Enduring Since: July 2011
The Facts : 4 chem pg (2 confirmed 2 suspected)
DH has Coughlan's Syndrome. All Tests have been clear.
~~~~~~~~~
Name: Georgia+John
Age: 23 DH: 25
Enduring Since: June 2011
The Facts: DH Type 1 Diabetes
No other known Issues.
~~~~~~~~~
Name: LilMissChatterbox
Age: 30
Enduring Since: September 2011
The Facts: U/S clear, if no BFP this month,
DH goes for trial wash. FS is tracking my bloods
~~~~~~~~~
Name: Allie D
ME: 29 DH: 27 TTC #1 Since 2010
Oct 2012: La
p for Endo, Adhesions,
Ventrosuspension, Blocked Tubes Discovered
IVF #1 - February 2013...


Friends of the Family bbighug.gif
Name: Felix
Name: Skoki
Name: Eyesabove

Recent Grads tthumbs.gif
Ards - Little Boy Noah
Curious Chicken
Sarah (Kate)
Name: AnnaBee87
Name:Zoelicious
Name: Gaia
Name:Amyc1981 EDD Feb 12
Name: Mia - EDD Mar 13
Name: Emso - Twins
Name: Scruff
Name: Satay Chicken
Name: Betts (bettinae)
Name - Alana Banana
Name: Leebec

Edited by Mish*J, 06 December 2012 - 08:49 AM.


#6 Iliketoflounce

Posted 31 October 2012 - 04:28 PM

Oh Mish can you update that all test came back clear Dh's SA was exelent 38mil and good

#7 Allie_D

Posted 01 November 2012 - 10:05 AM

I had my follow up appointment the other day.  The earliest the FS could get us into the IVF clinic was February.  I was a little upset at the time, but have come around now.  I had read so many stories on here of women being told they needed IVF and starting 2 weeks later that I just assumed we would get a cycle in before Christmas.  I didn't realise that the IVF clinic here is not full time and they do clinics once every 6 weeks.  So we are booked in for the second week in February.

We will use the time to have a fantastic Christmas and New Year with family and friends.  We might even get in a quick holiday or two!!  I am a Christmas nut so I am sure I can keep myself busy xmas_cool.gif

I hope everyone else is well, it's been rather quiet in here lately.

Oh and P.S.  Mish am I allowed to be added to the list? blush.gif

#8 njik

Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:13 PM

Hey Allie - I can understand your disappointment.  I had no idea that they went in 6 week cycles?  Is this something that is standard across all clinics?  Can't quite understand the logic.  Definitely get a couple of holidays in, and just enjoy the festive time (might be the last time for a while you can have a few drinkies!).. and work on getting yourself into the healthiest state you can be in (not suggesting you're not already btw) so that you're all prepared for your journey next year.

AFM - not much happening with me.  Seeing my TCM tonight.  If this cycle doesn't work she wants me on progesterone pessaries - anyone had much experience with these?  



#9 AmberSpark

Posted 01 November 2012 - 02:50 PM

Hi Ladies,

I have updated everyone....

Hope you are all well, I am hanging in there. Have a long weekend away this weekend and it couldn't come quick enough, this has been really tough on us as a couple and I am hoping we can make it.

I have started taking CoQ10 today, figured it can't hurt and is good for the heart as well. Bonus.

#10 njik

Posted 01 November 2012 - 02:57 PM

Hey Mish - have been thinking about you and hoping you're ok.  Are you doing anything for the long weekend?  Hope you can do something special together.  

CoQ10 definitely won't hurt.  I've upped my dosage to 600mg now (2 tabs, twice a day).  Not sure if i have asked before but are you on DHEA too?

#11 Bigwoo

Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:09 AM

Did you guys taking CoQ10 self prescribe it, or did your GP/FS tell you it was ok to take and how much? I have a post-op appointment next Tuesday and I might ask about it.

Mish - great to hear from you hun. Enjoy the weekend away with hubby.

Allie - my clinic doens't do 6 week cycles that I'm aware of, but does close for 6 weeks over xmas. That's annoying but probably for the best... you don't want to be feeling like a stuck pig over chrissie. Enjoy the party time I reckon.

njik - progesterone pessaries are pretty horrible - you probably won't be having sex while you're on them. Lots of gross build up that needs regular cleaning out. :/

AFM not much to report. Not trying this month as I'm not really in the mood and still a bit tender. Just DTD for the first time on weds - let's just say it wasn't the best. But all my bits appear to be intact!

#12 njik

Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:49 AM

Hey Bigwoo - sorry to hear you're still feeling a bit tender.  I guess take this month easy, and treat yourself lots and get back to full strength so you'll be raring to go next month original.gif

re: Coq10 - I actually can't remember.  I think it was suggested to me, but both my doctor and TCM are supportive of it.  There are no downsides from what I know... definitely worth talking to your doctor about.

oh, so with the prog pessaries, is that the same as crinone that some of you talk about?  Assume they're just, ahem, inserted after O?   My TCM did say that I would have to lie still for an hour after insertion twice a day which won't be too easy.  Guess I'll have to set alarm for super early!

Hi everyone else - hope everyone has a lovely weekend x

#13 AmberSpark

Posted 02 November 2012 - 10:49 AM

QUOTE (njik @ 01/11/2012, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey Mish - have been thinking about you and hoping you're ok. Are you doing anything for the long weekend? Hope you can do something special together.

CoQ10 definitely won't hurt. I've upped my dosage to 600mg now (2 tabs, twice a day). Not sure if i have asked before but are you on DHEA too?


Hi Njik - I am going to Albury for the weekend and camping for the 4 days. I can't wait to just sit, read my book and fish and relax in general.
I'm not on DHEA, I haven't officially been diagnosed with anything, my AHM levels are okay but as my transfers haven't resulted in anything, I thought that it wouldn't hurt adding somethign in.

Hi Bigwoo - I sort of self diagnosed and put myself on it, I read up on the weekend. Might bring it up at next doctors appointment.

Edited by Mish*J, 02 November 2012 - 10:51 AM.


#14 Daisy1974

Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:27 PM

Hello ladies - thank god it's Friday!!!

COQ10 my specialist is big on this and recommends it for egg quality.  My old FS who wasn't that interested in it said I could take it if I wanted as it wouldn't harm me in any way.  New FS also gave me a list of supplements for egg quality which there has been a little bit of research on that shows that they can help - so if anyone is interested in them, let me know and I will give you the info.  

As for the proj pessaries I think I must be the only person I know of that didn't find them a pain at all.  Everytime my nurse from the clinic would call she would talk about the awful pessaries and I would just smile and agree but really I thought they were a breeze.  I only had to insert one every night, I would then go straight to bed (with a liner on) and in the morning everything would be fine.  I never had yucky build-up.....I guess I am one of the lucky ones.  Those on Crinone though.....shudder....that stuff sounds awful!!

Mish I know it's been such a hard time for you - hope you have a great time away with your DH.

Well I got the NK results back and there is absolutely nothing wrong with me!!  No elevated levels.....nothing, nada!!  I know I should be happy about that but I will admit I am little disappointed.   I guess I just wanted them to find something so I had a reason for everything that has been going on.  FS says it's just down to poor embryo quality!! So hopefully all these supplements will help.  I am Cycle day 10 today so gearing up for the big BD marathon.  This is our last go at trying for the year as if we don't get a positive this cycle we are going to wait until next year to try again - so it's back on the train I jump!!!!

Have a great weekend everyone and Bigwoo I hope you start to feel great again real soon.

xx

#15 AmberSpark

Posted 07 November 2012 - 10:54 AM

Thanks Daisy - I might get that list from you, have just started the CoQ10. so will be interested to see if it helps at all. I am like you a little, we had a good talk over the weekend and decided to hold off the FET until next year. Glad that your results came back okay.

Hope everyone is doing okay and had a great long weekend for the Victorian people.

AFM: Well the weekend started off a little shakey but by the end, I think we managed to work through some things. I have agreed to not be a freak and he has agreed to be forgiving...lol...I am still seeing the Psychologist but I tell you what the huge relief was. We have decided to not do the FET in December, for a number of reasons, 1) I dont think that I am stable enough, 2) I want to get some more weight off and look after myself again 3) We need to concentrate on being a couple again with no TTCing 4) The money side of things. If we do the FET next year, we can get the medicare rebate on the FET and then the next Stim cycle wont be as expensive.

I think the feeling that I don't have to put myself through that just clicked in somewhere and I instantly picked up, Hubby was more worried and said I have to get myself right emtionally first. I have been stressing and worrying him out, he thought I wanted out of the marriage but I was trying to explain that I was feeling like a failure and was pushing him away unintentionally.  It was also nice at the weekend to get some of our spark back and to BD for the hell of it. We still have some way to go but we will get there. We can't let this stop us in our tracks. wub.gif

#16 MagsJee

Posted 07 November 2012 - 12:10 PM

QUOTE (Daisy1974 @ 02/11/2012, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
New FS also gave me a list of supplements for egg quality which there has been a little bit of research on that shows that they can help - so if anyone is interested in them, let me know and I will give you the info.

Daisy, I might grab that list off you as well, if it's not too much trouble.  

Mish, I'm so happy to hear that you are feeling more settled and more in control of the process.  Sounds like things are getting back on track with your DH as well  happy.gif

afm, well I had my first appointment with the FS and have started diagnostic tests.  Mr Mags needs to do a SA and really, it all hangs on that with regard to what happens next.  I've had some more ovarian reserve tests since the results of the blood test and the ultrasound were conflicting - blood test showed AMH of 7 (the level of a 42 year old woman  ohmy.gif ) but the u/s showed a higher than normal number of follicles  shrug.gif  Keeping that in mind, her initial advice is to go straight to IVF on account of age.

Once we have the results (next appointment is on 16/11) I can add my details to the list.

Edited by MagsJee, 07 November 2012 - 12:11 PM.


#17 Bigwoo

Posted 07 November 2012 - 04:09 PM

Yes Please Daisy re: the list for improving egg quality. My FS didn't agree it was OK for me to do CoQ10 bc she said there was no research to support it. So if I do it, it's up to me. But I'd like to know if there are more natural options.

I had a meeting with the FS yesterday to go through pathology post-op. Nothing new to report - I had endo stage III/IV, and am now no longer unexplained. I thought this would be a relief, and in a way it is, but I really can't believe that endo was the only problem all these years. I can't imagine it being so simple.

The FS wants us to try naturally for 6 months (which feels like a lifetime right now). We have wedding to go to in India in late March, so if we don't get preggers naturally by then we will definitely be back for the next round of IVF.

I am also feeling like I should take a break from EB during this time, else I'm likely to obsess over what I'm doing and every little thing. I'm not going away just yet though, and I will be checking in to see all the amazing BFPs I'm sure you ladies will get over the coming months.

Mish I'm really happy you have made the choice to wait. This process is so hard on us physically and emotionally. While we feel like every missed month is a wasted opportunity I know as I get to the end of the year, my body and mind is telling me I need a break, too.
Working on your physical and mental health is worth just as much as the jabs and meds, I just know it.

Hi all you lovely ladies. Thanks for your support.

#18 AmberSpark

Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:53 AM

Bigwoo - I totally understand that you need a break away, I have been doing the same thing. I so hope that the endo is all that it was and you will be UTD in no time. I have everything crossed for you. I think concentrating on Xmas and my family is what i have to do for the next couple of months. biggrin.gif Thank you for being such a great EB buddy.

MagsJee - I get really confused about the tests, hoping they come back okay and you can move onto your next step.

#19 Allie_D

Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:53 AM

Hi everyone original.gif

QUOTE (njik @ 01/11/2012, 02:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey Allie - I can understand your disappointment.  I had no idea that they went in 6 week cycles?  Is this something that is standard across all clinics?  Can't quite understand the logic.  Definitely get a couple of holidays in, and just enjoy the festive time (might be the last time for a while you can have a few drinkies!).. and work on getting yourself into the healthiest state you can be in (not suggesting you're not already btw) so that you're all prepared for your journey next year.

No 6 weeks isn't standard across all clinics.  It's just here because they don't do it full time.  The staff come down from one of the Monash Clinics in Melbourne so they only do it once every 6 weeks.  I like the thought of getting into a healthier state, but I've decided it's the wrong time of year to be doing that roll2.gif  Melbourne cup day I shared 4 bottles of champas with a friend and we ate 2 things of cheese and 2 tubs of dip during the day!   And now I've got Christmas coming up I've got no hope xmas_tongue.gif  As soon as January hits I might try and do a quick healthy eating plan!!

QUOTE (Bigwoo @ 02/11/2012, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
AFM not much to report. Not trying this month as I'm not really in the mood and still a bit tender. Just DTD for the first time on weds - let's just say it wasn't the best. But all my bits appear to be intact!

I'm still a bit tender right at the front of my stomach and it hurts to wear jeans which is rather annoying!!  Enjoy your break and time away from everything original.gif

Mish I'm glad you're feeling a bit better about everything and are feeling great about taking a break from things.  I'm glad you and DH are finding some time together as well original.gif

AFM - Nothing much going on here, just gearing up for Christmas.  AF is due in a couple of days and I must say this is the calmest I have felt in ages not doing PG tests every 5 minutes and wondering about all my IPS!  After originally being sad that we couldn't start treatment straight away I think I am now very grateful for it as it's giving us time to get things done around the house and it means we can have a very chilled back Christmas and New Year.  I feel much more comfortable knowing we're making a start in the new year when everything will be settled down, there won't be extended family around etc etc.  Now to just watch my alcohol consumption! roll2.gif  I am by no means a big drinker, infact a few years ago I didn't drink at all.  Now I enjoy a glass or two of bubbles, and I have to make sure I stop there!  I hate hate hate the headache the next day!!

Oh and I got my rebate from my PHI today for the surgeons bill.  The bill was $1050 and the rebate.... $99.95 oomg2.gif  rant.gif  I know that PHI will come in very handy going through IVF, but I really wonder why we pay $155 per fortnight for a rebate like that!!  Oh well, at least I got $300 back from medicare!

Hope you're all well original.gif

#20 LittleListen

Posted 10 November 2012 - 04:31 PM

Hi ETs just hanging around and doing a bit of  ph34r.gif

Great to see some of our long termers who started in ET with me have moved on. Fingers crossed for everyone else and a big hug for Mish  wub.gif

Mish hun, can you move me to friends of the family for now? I'm just taking up space on the list. We have given TTC a rest for now until I've finished counselling over my bro's passing. I'm doing pretty well, but its just one thing at a time at the moment.

Hope you are all well and will be stalking every now and then to see how you are all keeping and hoping to see ALL the long termers gone!! original.gif

#21 LilMissChatterbox

Posted 11 November 2012 - 03:18 PM

Hi ladies,

Hope you are all well. I'm skipping in and out at the moment - this month have been so convinced nothing is going to happen and I haven't been having many symptoms.  AF due Tuesday but I've had no symptoms. Not feeling very confident, rather than calm, it's more of a numbness.

LMC.

Edited by LilMissChatterbox, 11 November 2012 - 03:18 PM.


#22 njik

Posted 12 November 2012 - 09:50 AM

Hi everyone! Hope you had a great weekend.  

Daisy, can you send me the list/research too please?

Mags - happy birthday! And good luck for your appointment this week.  I think I've said it before, but AMH of 7 isn't too bad.  Mine is a lot lower so I guess I have the body of a 50 year old.  Yikes!

Bigwoo - enjoy the break, and just be kind to yourself.  I wish you all the best and hope to hear some good news from you in the coming months x

Allie - I hear you with the alcohol although I struggle to stop at 2 glasses.  It is my downfall.  I am not a p*sshead but I do love some wine with dinner but increasingly feel the effects the next day!

AFM - AF arrived on Saturday so just had day 3 bloods done and also my AMH.  Bit nervous about this one as it's been almost a year since I was last tested and am dreading the results.  I have been on DHEA and Coq10 so am trying to be hopeful that it's at least prevented the level decreasing but I have to be realistic.  Results on Thursday morning.   DH and I not getting on either at the moment which just makes it all a lot harder to deal with.

#23 MagsJee

Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:42 AM

Thanks njik (can I call you ninja?).  When are you getting your blood results back?  FX that the DHEA and CoQ10 have made a difference.  I hope you've got the ovaries of a 25 year old.  Bummer about issues with your DH, I hope you can sort them out (one way or another).

I'm also off to the FS on Friday for the results of blood work and a bunch of tests on my thyroid (family history of issues with a lovely side salad of Chernobyl fallout) but more importantly - George/AF didn't really arrive.  I've had 4 days of brown spotting and that's it.  My temp's way below the coverline and I feel very post-AF: not bloated, no AF weight gain, no sore boobs, nothing.  4 days of old brown spotting - no red blood at all and no flow of anything  sad.gif   Not good.

Additionally, it's a no go on the sample from DH.  We tried and he doesn't produce anything, so that retrograde ejaculation issue he suspected seems like a real possibility  sad.gif  We are sooo on the success train with TTC  *insert sarcastic smiley*

*sigh* all that money on contraceptive pill I didn't have to spend.  I could have bought so much OPI!!!

#24 njik

Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:41 PM

Hey Mags!  Sorry to hear about your DH's sperm issues.   Definitely sounds like the appointment on Friday will be help answer a lot of questions and really help set you on your way.  What tests are they doing on your thyroid, may I ask?  I am hypothyroid and have been on thyroxine for years (always was a difficult one as I have always been low BMI).  We are struggling to get the right dosage at the moment but it's only a BT I have.  I do wonder how much of a factor it plays in TTC.

How annoying about George/AF.  Definitely timely that you have you appt.  Looking forward to hearing how your appt goes!

Results are in on Thursday but Dh and I have a w/e away in the Hunter for a wedding and we really, really need a good break together.  I am not sure whether to leave the test results until next week in case they're not so good and it puts a dampner on the w/e...

ps - yes, happy to be called ninja (think that's become my name over in the other thread)  original.gif

#25 Daisy1974

Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:54 PM

Hi ladies

So sorry for the delay in responding - life has been crazy hectic but in a good way and I just haven't had a chance to pop on here and respond.  The list of supplements my FS said was good for egg quality is:

Inositol, 2 grams, twice daily
CoEnzyme Q10, 200mg, twice daily
L-Arginine, 1000mg, twice daily

Melatonin, 3 mg, at bedtime.

Now the melatonin she had to give me a script for and it was only available at certain chemists.  I didn't 100% understand what she meant, but basically she said it is a compound vitamin?? and as such can only be made up by a chemist who does compounding.....  So really could be a bit hard to find and a pain to get a script but all the other stuff is available over the counter.

I have to dash off now but will be back for personals.....lots of love to you all.

xx


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Ever wondered what would happen if adults were allowed to act like children? This dad's hilarious video clip will give you an idea of what life would be like.

Mums hit hardest as flu cases skyrocket

The number of confirmed cases of influenza in Australia has doubled the number for the same time last year - and women are 25 per cent more likely to get it.

The mum who had four babies in nine months

Feeling exhausted due to the demands of caring for a baby? Imagine the life of this mum, who gave birth to three boys and one girl in just nine months.

Everything baby at Big W

Lowest prices on everything baby, only at Big W. Sale starts August 4 and ends August 20 2014.

Going viral

Outrage over baby's icy challenge

A man has been reported to child protective services after taking the ALS ice bucket challenge with his 10-month-old granddaughter.

Personalised baby gifts

We've scoured the internet to find gorgeous personalised keepsakes and nursery decor to record baby name and dates. They make great gifts for christenings, name days and birthdays! (All prices in AU.)

 

Mind, body, beauty, life

Making time for me

We look at your wellbeing, covering health, relationships, beauty and fashion, mind and body.

 
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