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#1 Wrenny

Posted 16 October 2012 - 02:56 PM

I'm trying to decide between the Bugaboo Cameleon, Stokke Xplory and Silver Cross Surf. I really like all three of these strollers, but none are perfect. The negatives I've identified are:
- Stokke Xpory - takes up a lot of boot space
- Bugaboo Cameleon - difficult to fold up
- Silver Cross Surf - small, difficult to access storage basket

I'm after a pram to use both for walks around home and for trips to the shops. I have footpaths, but my parents' street doesn't, so I would like it to be able to do some offroad. I definitely want a pram where the child can face me, even after they are out of the bassinette, which is why I have excluded the Baby Jogger.

Should I also consider an iCandy?

We are planning a 2nd baby about 18 months to 2 years after our 1st. Should I take that into consideration? Or just buy a new pram later if/when I need to?

I have a medium sized hatch and our other car is a Mazda 3 sedan. The Stokke Xplory takes up a lot of boot space, but I like that you fold it without removing the seat.

Which has the best sun protection (either standard or add-on)? This is important to me.

Does anyone have any feedback on any of these prams?

(Edited to delete Xplory and add iCandy peach in heading, and to add update in post #18)

Edited by Wrenny, 17 December 2012 - 02:55 PM.


#2 porkchop's mama

Posted 16 October 2012 - 03:02 PM

I bought the cameleon version 3 which has just been out the last couple of months.  Found it easier to unfold than previous model.

I do have a friend who bought an iCandy and she liked it because she and her sister in law would be having babies of similar ages and the iCandy would be able to carry both of them.

Agree with what you've said about the Stokke,  Another friend had pointed that issue out to me.  It's also pretty heavy.

#3 Wrenny

Posted 01 November 2012 - 10:47 AM

An update...

I've now ruled out the Stokke Xplory as I could only just fit it into the Mazda 3 boot and it took up the whole boot!

I'm now doubting the Bugaboo Cameleon 3 as I'm worried it will unfold and dent my car while I'm getting it in and out. This is because it doesn't lock when collapsed.

I'm now leaning towards the iCandy Peach. It folds up really compactly, and I'll have the option of adding a 2nd seat if I have a 2nd child soon after the 1st.

I'm still considering the Silver Cross Surf, because the chassis is so light (7.5kg). However it doesn't take a capsule, and a 2nd seat can't be added, and the seat is long, so doesn't fold up as compactly as the Peach.

I've now realised that the Cameleon and the iCandy only take a Maxi Cosi Mico or a Unity capsule, both of which only have a 1 star CREP safety rating. So I might as well get the 5 star rated Safety 1st capsule and not worry about a travel system.

Anyone have any feedback on the iCandy Peach?

#4 Guest_divineM_*

Posted 01 November 2012 - 10:52 AM

Hi. I'm a big fan of my bugaboo cameleon. not at all hard to fold and unfold once you ahve done it a couple of times. also can't see how it would unfold when putting into the car...have nothing but praise for this pram.

#5 TotesFeral

Posted 01 November 2012 - 10:55 AM

The baby jogger city select still gives you the option of having bub face you once out of the bassinette. It also has the option of the second seat.
It folds up flatter than the icandy too.

#6 dae-gu

Posted 01 November 2012 - 10:59 AM

Regarding the Safety 1st capsule....have a google...on here in car restraints and also look on strollers and prams, as the girls there worked out you could remove a plastic bit off the capsule and there were adaptors underneath and i think they fit other strollers (even a cammy!!!!)....here you go, found a link.
http://strollersandprams.com/forums/viewto...=10&t=42501
The girls on s and p would also be worth asking about your stroller choices too....oh, and there are some new model Stokkes coming too.....all on s and p.....happy reading:)

Edited by dae-gu, 01 November 2012 - 11:00 AM.


#7 MummyIHK

Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:01 AM

I have an I-Candy Pear (I just use the one seat in it) and I love it:)  I obviously brought the Pear for our twins but just took the extra seat and adapter out to use with the current bub.  That way when/if we have another I can just pop the seat and adapter back on.  I do a fair bit off foot path/gravel path walking and it is really smooth biggrin.gif   I am not sure if the peach is different but I find it is a bit of a squeeze to fit in my boot (an xr5 turbo) but I have never had another pram to compare it to (I think my boot is pretty tiny) wink.gif

ETA - I brought the bassinet material and used that for the first 4 months (at which stage bub out grew it).  I still have bub facing me, however in the pear it is not as simple as just popping the seat in and having him face you one day and face away another, there is a screw or something that needs to be undone and then something is flipped over.  Sorry that is not very clear my DH does it for me, I just wanted to point out that you can just chop and change which way bub faces, which suits me as I love to just stare at my little man, he is probably a bit sick of looking at me though:)

Edited by MummyIHK, 01 November 2012 - 11:06 AM.


#8 bluebirdbaby

Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:08 AM

I was also tossing up between the Bugaboo Cam and the Xplory, but then I came across the Joolz day.... it is basically the lovechild of the bugaboo cam and the xplory.
The Joolz is European made (unlike the bugaboo which feels incredibly cheap and like it's going to fall apart when compared to the Joolz) and has the height of the Xplory (so can be used as a high-chair when pulled to the table) with the style of the Cameleon. Folding down is pretty easy, but I found the Cam easy to fold too.
http://www.productreview.com.au/p/joolz-day-earth.html

The Joolz can be converted to a travel system with the maxi-cosi mico and titan too which is super handy. The titan is safer than the Mico which appealed to me.

Bub is able to face you, or face away - you just click the bassinet or seat into the chassis in the direction you want them to face which is nice and easy, no bolts etc.

We ruled out the icandy as by comparison it is super heavy, you have to purchase the bassinet separately and the legrest doesn't extend which is sure to be a problem for us as we are both tall and bub is measuring long already.

Good luck!

Edited by bluebirdbaby, 01 November 2012 - 11:14 AM.


#9 Wrenny

Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:53 AM

Thank you to all who replied for the great information you provided. I have lots to investigate now, with the maxi cosi adaptors, other prams to add to the list of choices (Baby Jogger City Select, Joolz Day). I'll be back to update you all later.

#10 Mummy fab

Posted 02 November 2012 - 07:29 PM

I've had a baby jogger city select, a bugaboo cameleon and currently have a bugaboo donkey and a stokke xplory by far my favourite is the donkey. It's amazing for walks, for the shops storage is great I honestly love it. I have the safety 1st capsule to use on it with my next baby.

#11 aquarius9

Posted 04 November 2012 - 03:25 PM

The bugaboo is definitely popular with the rear facing option. But you need to buy the donkey for 2 kids. The iCandy peach  is rear facing and has the option of having two kids.

Edited by aquarius9, 23 November 2012 - 02:07 PM.


#12 pinkelephant

Posted 04 November 2012 - 06:16 PM

I just literally bought the icandy peach today. I also bought the bassinet seat because the notmal seat does not lie completely flat (well it does but the feet would stick up not lie flat), and I don't like the dea of a newborn sleeping like that. It's sogorgeous I'm chuffed!

#13 cuddlebud

Posted 04 November 2012 - 08:22 PM

I have the cameleon and at first it was difficult to unfold but we got the hang of it and it's a breeze. Also love it with the capsule (maxi cosi mico) and it's easy to swap between the bassinet and capsule - you might want to check this with the other prams. The width has been great for narrow aisles and dodging slow shoppers original.gif A friend has an icandy, not sure if it was an older model but grass kept getting stuck in the hubcaps.

We chose the cameleon over the joolz and other prams due to weight, almost 20% lighter - we have have steps leading up to our front door.

#14 Sweetpea11

Posted 04 November 2012 - 08:36 PM

I also have a Joolz Day and I love it.

The bassinette is really long so you can use it for ages with your newborn which I really liked.
The hood on the seat is a good size but I still bought a sun shade/mosquito net that covers everything.
Being able to switch the direction of the seat is great and it can double as a high chair when pushed up to a table - super convenient!!
The handle extends out quite a long way too, which is great for my husband as he's about 6 foot 2 so we needed a pram that he could comfortably push.

Only negative that I can think of is that the storage compartment underneath isn't very big. But if you use your car to do your grocery shopping etc then it probably doesn't really matter.

#15 tiggy2

Posted 04 November 2012 - 08:47 PM

The peg perego capsule also fits the bugaboo.
I have a bugaboo and I don't really like it. It's ok for shopping but its a pain on footpaths. When thr seat is facing me, so
Small wheels at the front, it stops dead when you hit the slightest bump or gutter- I worry about dd getting thrown out if the seatbelt is not on perfectly.
I bought it because I wanted a reversible but it is nowhere ear as nice to walk with as my old mountain buggy. I'm contemplating selling it and getting a baby jogger mini. The bug also won't fit in the boot of my territory it the third row of seats are up.
Hope that is helpful.

#16 Wrenny

Posted 14 December 2012 - 01:13 PM

Pram update:

Thanks for all the further comments.

I'm leaning heavily towards the iCandy Peach. My husband is reluctant to get the Joolz Day because he thinks it might be hard to get it repaired because it is not a very common stroller. The Silver Cross Surf just doesn't have a large enough basket, and because it is so light doesn't seem as sturdy, and might tip over if I had a bag hanging on the handle. It is also very long when folded, taking up more room in my boot than the iCandy Peach would. I'm still worried about the new Bugaboo coming unfolded and denting my car as I lift it in and out of the car.

So it will probably be the Peach! I'm going to try fitting it in my boot this weekend.

I will update again when I make the final purchase.

#17 Elle232

Posted 14 December 2012 - 02:23 PM

I have the icandy peach and love it! I initially bought the Mima Kobi as I liked the option of the 2nd seat but it was too big & bulky. The peach however folds up really small. I am able to fit the pram plus the 2 seats in the back of my 7 seat Volvo, with the 3rd row of seats up.
It's also goes ok off road. Obviously not designed to go too rough as it has solid wheels but I take it walking daily and about half the walk has no footpaths. It's quite solid and stable so seems to handle uneven ground well. I didn't get the bassinet, just used the Maci Cosi Mico capsule. I think they have just released a new capsule (maxi Cosi Titan) that also fits.
I have a friend with the the baby jogger city select and it always amazes her how small the peach footprint is compared to her's.

Edited to add: it also has a 2 yr warranty with an additional 6 months when you register online so 2.5 yrs is a pretty good warranty for a pram!

Edited by Elle232, 14 December 2012 - 02:26 PM.


#18 Wrenny

Posted 17 December 2012 - 02:54 PM

Well..... I put a deposit on the Peach yesterday. It was on sale at My Baby Warehouse. I'll be picking it up in late January. If it's any later, it might be on the way home from the hospital or even later. I can't wait!

#19 SunnyGirl79

Posted 17 December 2012 - 03:04 PM

Good choice OP!

I love my peach! Have been using it with DS for 18 months and have just ordered the second seat to turn it into the peach blossom for when baby no.2 arrives in March. It's very easy to steer and easy to fold up and get in and out of the car. And lots of storage space underneath!

Enjoy your peach - what colour did you choose?




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