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#1 Freckles

Posted 28 September 2012 - 09:26 AM

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Emma


#2 Jaynen81

Posted 28 September 2012 - 10:03 AM

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#3 emmy-g

Posted 28 September 2012 - 10:47 AM

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#4 HOPE6

Posted 28 September 2012 - 11:02 AM

BRONZE!!!! tthumbs.gif

#5 little lion

Posted 28 September 2012 - 11:18 AM

Booby prize for me?

Hope: enjoy your holiday!

Emmy: that's cool your dad is an ob. I imagine I'd drive my dad mad with questions if he were an ob! Hehe.

PCM, jaynen, gaia, super fruity and my other lovelies, hope you're going well. I see my ob this arvo - visits are now weekly, which to me a few months ago signalled the really exciting part of pregnancy! I feel so many emotions: amazement that in a few weeks we will be parents; a bit of anxiety about birth; achy due to pelvic girdle issues (I feel like I'm in the body of a 50 year old).

#6 porkchop's mama

Posted 28 September 2012 - 11:34 AM

Hello little lion!

I know how you feel about the change in appt frequency.  I'm going to my last monthly appt in few weeks before going to fortnightly and it all seemed like such a huge milestone at the beginning.

I'm achy as, only 27 weeks!  I walk like an old lady....  Bubs is kicking daily but some days more active than others.  Anyone else notice this?

If you're in NSW, have a lovely long weekend!  I'm so looking forward to it.

XXX

#7 Blue cup

Posted 30 September 2012 - 01:09 PM

Hi ladies,

I just wanted to pop in and say a quick hello. We've just come back from our babymoon - it was so nice, im a bit sad to be home! I'm looking forward to catching up on what everyones been doing while i was away. Be back for personals in a day or two when ive caught up  biggrin.gif

#8 Jaynen81

Posted 02 October 2012 - 08:51 PM

Hi Ladies,

just wanted to share that its a GIRL!!!  so excited, the scan went really well and baby was moving around so cute!

xo

#9 little lion

Posted 02 October 2012 - 10:57 PM

Yay! That's fab news jaynen.  biggrin.gif


Blue cup I look forward to hearing about your baby moon.


PCM I'm happy I'm not the only one feeling so old physically. Physio is helping me to a degree, as is easing up on the physical activity. Yes until around 30 weeks I felt baby's movements differed day to day. Once I called my Ob to go in for an extra scan as I was concerned. I totally recommend doing it if you feel concerned. After about 30 weeks he has settled into a definite pattern e.g. I could tell you that 6pm and 9pm are typical times of crazy movements.


As for me: I am trying to plough through my list of things to do. I'm almost done packing my hospital bag. Tomorrow I will begin washing the 0000 and 000 baby clothes, squee!!!

#10 emmy-g

Posted 03 October 2012 - 10:46 AM

Congrats Jaynen! Such beautiful news ddance.gif
Good luck to Hope who is having her ultrasound today hands.gif
AFM- into my 10th week and my anxiety levels are out of control... I'm so scared that we will lose this little bubble cry1.gif  Did any of you ladies buy or rent a fetal heart rate Doppler? I'm considering it for peace of mind.. I feel like I'm going to self combust with nervousness cry1.gif

#11 HOPE6

Posted 03 October 2012 - 04:41 PM

Afternoon all,

Quick update, had my scan today and all is well. Bub is pretty much measuring spot on and heartbeat was great at 175bpm. So relieved, just praying everything continues to go well. I am 9 weeks tomorrow so good news is only 3 more weeks til i can have my next scan. I am going to GP on friday to discuss results and i guess he will get the ball rolling regarding booking in for NT scan.

emmy - how you going? Have you had any more spotting?

Jaynen - yay for the girl, thats excellent news!

Bluecup - hope you had a lovely babymoon. I think i will do one of those in the 2nd tri FX.

Oh how exciting little lion, not long now..

Hi PCM, hope things are well for you.

xxxx

#12 *Gaia*

Posted 05 October 2012 - 01:12 PM

Hi All,

Jaynen -  eexcite.gif  Congratulations on a good scan  cclap.gif . So happy for you. And a little girl  ppinkstork.gif  ppinkstork.gif  thats lovely. It is so exciting to find out the gender, I found it made me feel closer to the baby too.

PCM - Yes I certainly notice that too. He is kicking and moving everyday now but some days are definitely more active than others. I have been recording how its been going and it seems to go in cycles, he will have a run of really active days and then a couple of quieter days in a row and then back to more active again. I make sure there are at least ten separate times in a day he is moving because this is what the midwife told me. But some days he is way over that and sometimes not and also somedays the movements are really strong kicks that you couldnt miss and other days a lot lighter that you could easy miss them if you werent paying attention. I hope all of this is normal.

LittleLion - How exciting that you are up to the packing and washing stages. Its getting so close!

Emmy - I feel for you. I still dont know how I have survived all of this with my mind in tact, especially first trimester it is so hard. I struggled so much with anxiety too so I can understand how you feel. Try to take one day at a time and just focus on getting through today, nothing else. I wish there was a magic formula to stop the worry  hhugs.gif

Hope - Congratulations on your scan, that is wonderful news!!! That is a beautiful strong heartbeat! I hope the next few weeks goes really quickly for you.

AFM - Coming up to 26 weeks, nearing the end of second trimester. Still cant beleive we have got this far.


For those who know you are having a boy - Im wondering how you feel about this and what kind of reactions you are getting to that news?

I am really happy about it. But I feel like when I tell people I get reactions like I should be somehow a bit disappointed that its not a girl. Im not at all disappointed but I feel like people don’t believe that I genuinely don’t feel this way or that it is true that I really am over the moon to find out we are having a boy. Maybe Im oversensitive but both my parents have responded by saying something along the lines of they could see me more with a daughter or something like that. Maybe I am reading too much into it but its just a feeling I get from other people as well. Like its disappointing news or something.

Anyway, I guess the main thing is that I am really happy about it doesn’t really matter what anyone else thinks or wants.


#13 porkchop's mama

Posted 05 October 2012 - 02:09 PM

Hello everyone!

HOPE6 - so happy your scan was perfect.  The next one will be pretty special too.  It's amazing how baby changes between those early scans.  Seeing their development made the pregnancy more real to me at that early stage when you don't look huge or feel any kicks.  Enjoy!!!

Gaia - yay for nearing the end of the second tri!  Thanks for the tip re periods of kicking during the day.  I'm up there, thank goodness and like you have quieter days as well.

About having a boy.  To  be honest, I was a little shocked when I found out on the day only because I was so convinced it was a girl and my mum had the inkling too.

I think it's shock more than disappointment for most rellies.  I thought my mum was 'disappointed' too but what's been most important to everyone is that both of us are doing fine and we're staying healthy.  

My friends were just delighted with the news.  Friends with boys passed on lots of advice and funny stories.  People without kids just said lovely things about how loving little boys are towards their mummies.  It's been really positive for me and DH and I think it would have been if we were expecting a girl.

The thing is, I'm a worrier.  Boy or girl, I'll have something to worry about regarding raising them, bullying, health issues, safety issues etc etc....

Does any of this make sense?

XXX

#14 *Gaia*

Posted 05 October 2012 - 04:32 PM

Hi PCM - Yes, you make perfect sense.

I have just read another thread on eb about having all boys and it got me thinking, some people saying they want a daughter have said that they want to be able to do 'girl' things. I have always been very girly so perhaps people naturally think thats what I would want. But perhaps you are right and maybe its surprise people are expressing rather than disappointment. Or perhaps I just read to much into things, lol   laugh.gif





#15 Olivebaby

Posted 05 October 2012 - 05:18 PM

Gaia - I know what you mean about people seeming like I should/would be disappointed. I did think I was having a girl but I kept it to myself and was more than happy (albeit initially suprised ) it was a boy. I think it was good for me as my first baby would have been a girl and this is now totally different.

To those in the first tri - I hope you are doing ok. I just worked with milestones, 6 weeks, then my m/c date, then the 13 week scan. I didn't get a doppler EmmyG but I think something like that may freak me out more If I used it wrong, saying that you are a nurse if I recall correctly so may have a better chance of getting it right!

Jaynen- yay for a little girl

I hope everyone else has a great weekend

AFM - absolutely smashed at work and am exhausted. This weekend cannot come soon enough. I am being retested next week re my iron level so part of me is hoping its still low to explain this exhaustion, otherwise it may be something else. I am only 31 weeks and not sure how I will get to the end of work in 6 weeks.

#16 Jaynen81

Posted 05 October 2012 - 10:22 PM

Hey All,

Hope - Great news on the scan! its amazing the changes baby makes as time goes on..

Emmy - I considered getting a doppler but then decided against it because I didnt want to stress myself even more.. Once I got to the 12wks I felt relieved but still a bit concerned so I had a few extra scans at my ob. I think I just took it a day at a time and just hoped everything would be ok.. so far so good but try not to stress to much about it  bbighug.gif

Gaia - I agree I feel like I can bond with baby more knowing what she is. Its funny how people automatically say to me " you must be happy you are having a girl" its a bit frustrating because I would have been happy either way.. before my mc the first time I always said I wanted a boy first and then when I fell pregnant this time I just said I would be grateful for a happy healthy bubba. wow you are coming up to the third trimester so exciting!

littlelion - not long to go for you. I remember in the other thread when you announced you were pg. im soo happy for you xo

Has anyone heard from Drsuperfruity? Shes due anytime now?

Olivebaby - good luck with your testing next week, hope you get some answers.

bluecup - how was your babymoon?

AFM - thanks ladies very excited about our little girl. so many cute little outfits. im feeling her alot more now normally after I have eaten which puts my mind at ease.. Does anyone have trouble getting comfy in bed? any suggestions?

#17 porkchop's mama

Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:14 PM

Jayne81 - it does help feeling all those baby movements, doesn't it.  I think I'll miss it when bub is born.  Even though I'll be holding him (and being made to stay up at all hours because of him) but this is such a special time.  I sort of never feel lonely because he's there and I get this 'sense' of his personality from his activity.  Perhaps it's all pregnant brain stuff I'm feeling to be honest.

About sleep.  It's undignified and possibly TMI but this is what is working for me.  I have a long body pillow that goes down the middle of the bed.  I'm trying to sleep left side down, this is meant to be best for baby?  So I straddle the pillow.  If I do turn I either take the pillow with me or else turn and lean my back into it.

I also sleep on two pillows because I've been getting reflux on and off.  I somehow get my arms so that the hands are up on one of my pillows or body pillow and the rest of the arm 'drains down'... heard this was good for reducing carpal tunnel stuff.

Most embarrassing of all is that I have to sleep with an old towel over the pillows because I have been drooling.....

That's too much sharing, sorry!  But I hope it helps.

There are smaller pillows that are meant to help you stay on your side but they're like $80 or so and what I have looks terrible but works for me.  Mothercare has a range of products.



#18 emmy-g

Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:22 PM

Hi girls,
Decided to get a Doppler for peace of mind... The midwives at work said they would teach me how to use it :-) I also had another scan yesterday because of more spotting... The haematoma is still there but bubble is doing well measuring 9 weeks and 6 days with cute little hands and legs waving and kicking an a strong heartbeat of 176 bpm...
Will speak to my OB on Monday about the haematoma...

#19 Blue cup

Posted 06 October 2012 - 08:22 PM

So much for a day or two, I think its taken me about a week to get on top of things again since we got back from our babymoon! Ive been working on updating the list, to take over from Fairey and I was thinking that maybe I should update it and post it again whenever our group has a new bub. What does everyone think? Superfruity is due pretty soon now, and maybe its a good way for us to celebrate. Happy to do something else if anyone has another idea though?...

emmy-g and Hope6– so nice to see you guys here! Congratulations!!
emmy – Hang in there, you're nearly through your first tri. I found it a real sense of relief getting into the 2nd tri. Its still scary but feels much safer than first. I dont think there's any magic tricks to feeling better about it, but hopefully sharing your feelings with everyone in here might help.
Hope6 – I found the first tri especially nerve wracking. Its hard not to over analyse everything isnt it? So glad your follow-up scan went well. That must ease some of your worries. BTW I think I stopped feeling nauseous most of the time by about week 11. Im sure its funny for you to hear at the moment but in the first few weeks after it stopped there were plenty of days when I actually missed it – the reassurance of it at least. What are you doing with your days off?

Jaynen – Congrats on your little girl! You thought were having a girl, right? I have a lot of trouble getting comfy in bed. I wake up a lot more than I used to. Not just to pee, but also because my hips get really sore. Do your hips hurt? Im very conscious of trying to only sleep on my left side, but sometimes I wake up feeling so sore I couldnt sleep on either side anymore. I sleep cuddling a bolster pillow, which definitely helps but isnt a total fix. Ive also figured out to prop myself up on a few pillows so I can sleep half sitting up, for some relief when my hips hurt too much.

Littlelion – how nice for you to be finished up with work! Does it feel strange, or have you got plenty to occupy your time with? Im sorry to hear you're still feeling sore and old, that must be really annoying. How exciting packing your hospital bag! So close now  biggrin.gif

Olivebaby – Hope your blood test results give you some answers this week. Seems like youve been feeling really exhausted for a while now  sad.gif  Do you have a long weekend this weekend? We do, its so nice!

Gaia – You're into double digits now, that really exciting! Less than 100 days to go for you! Congrats! Ive been feeling our little bubba moving around for a few weeks now. Its really nice, and kind of fun! I cant wait for DH to be able to feel it too. Your baby's movements sound like mine (which is really reassuring for me wink.gif ) sometimes I notice them a lot and other days it seems like much less. I guess some of that is probably a reflection of how busy we are and how much we're moving around, and how much we're alert to what theyre doing, right?

Rara – im glad you guys are doing ok and sounds like you're getting the help you need. I hope the specialists can give you some answers to help you move forward.

Pz – That sounds really scary. Im so glad you're alright though. Please rest up and take it easy. Hope you're doing better now.

TheNewMrsS – Congratulations on your safe delivery! Nice to hear that both your little girls are doing really well.

PCM – Congrats on reaching the 3rd tri. Wow, thats awesome! BTW I straddle the pillow too wink.gif and Ive been getting reflux. Its horrible, pretty much every day Ive been getting a bout (or two) of it. I find drinking milk or vinegar and water seems to help a bit but it doesnt really get rid of it. Do you have any tips?

AFM – Our babymoon was really nice. We had about a week in the city, catching up with friends, shopping and eating! And we went to a beach resort where we were planning to spend 5 days just relaxing by the pool but DH got really sunburnt on our second day there, and there were not many food options and they werent very good. So we left after only 2 days and went to another city, Melaka. It was a good decision. Melaka is a really interesting old city with lots to see and really good food! Towards the end of our trip we went over to Singapore for the day. Just to have lunch really! There's a tea store and restaurant that I really like there. We bought lots of cute little clothes and baby things on our holiday. I think weve bought more than we'll need but like (I think it was PCM?) said, they're just so cute and we've waited so long for this!
I definitely look pregnant now instead of just fat! In Singapore we got to jump the queue in a few places because they told us pregnant ladies dont have to queue! I was so grateful for that after walking around in the heat all day!
Thanks for reading ladies. I had so much to catch up on, this turned into a bit of an essay!

#20 little lion

Posted 06 October 2012 - 08:26 PM

Hi girls. Just a quick one from me. I saw my Ob on Friday and baby is measuring two weeks ahead of the norm. I know it isn't an exact science but wow!


On the topic of expecting a boy, I've had a comments where I've thought people expressed disappointment for me. I notice mums of boys are quick to tell me how fab they are (even if they also have daughters) so that is sweet.

I'm not disappointed though! In my husband's culture, traditionally boys are preferred. So I think my in laws are extra happy the baby is a boy, but since he will be the first grandchild (on both sides) everyone's super excited.  biggrin.gif

Edited to add: feeling guilty now after reading blue cup's detailed entry. Hehe. I like your idea for updating the list. I also forgot to reply on how I get comfy in bed. Short answer? I don't! I've been seeing a physio for sacroiliac joint pain in particular. I think the treatment is working now because I feel a bit better. She recommends sleeping with a pillow between the knees. I tried the long body pillow and wedge pillow a couple of months ago but didn't like them.

Edited by little lion, 06 October 2012 - 08:44 PM.


#21 Loulla

Posted 07 October 2012 - 09:55 PM

I miss you girls and this thread heaps! Just had a read through and am so happy to see that everyone's going well. Little Lion you are going to pop so soon!  ddance.gif Blue Cup PM me if you want to meet up in Canberra once your bub is born.
GL to you all x

#22 HOPE6

Posted 08 October 2012 - 12:03 PM

emmy - goodluck at the OB today

Blue cup - glad you had a nice getaway and got some nice little baby outfits. Nice idea for the list. My EDD is 9th May 2013.

Lots of baby boys in this group. Funny I think people just assume ladies want a little girl and the men want a little baby boy. Most important thing of course is a healthy baby.

Just booked in for 2 weeks time to have my NT scan tests. Things sure do go quick with all these scans and blood tests, which i guess is a good thing in the first tri.

Have a good week all, i am back at work on wed... errr... love being at home. xxx

#23 emmy-g

Posted 09 October 2012 - 06:18 AM

Thanks Hope...
I've been put on two weeks of bed rest as my OB doesn't like my haemmorhage... I don't blame him cos I hate it cry1.gif bubble is still doing great but the bleeder has the potential to make things go pear shaped... Am staying with some friends while DH is away so that I don't cheat on the doctors rules....

#24 porkchop's mama

Posted 09 October 2012 - 09:54 AM

Just ducking in quickly

emmy-g - take care, hunny.  Glad that bub is doing well.  May the weeks of bed rest fly by!

HOPE6 - all the best for the NT!

Loulla - lovely to hear from you.  Hope all is well and will be with you soon on the other side.

XXX

#25 HOPE6

Posted 09 October 2012 - 04:53 PM

Oh emmy i am praying everything will be well xx
Thats good your OB is being extra cautious. Sorry for my stupidity but where exactly is the bleeding and what does it all mean?? bbighug.gif

Hi PCM, thanks for the well wishes x




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