Secondary Infertility BG #11
, Sep 28 2012 09:14 AM
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Posted 28 September 2012 - 09:14 AM
New thread time ladies. Old thread is here.
This is a support thread for couples who have been TTC for over 12+ months and have secondary infertility TTC #2 onwards. It doesn't matter if your trying for your 2nd or your 10th - or if your using AC or trying naturally - everyone is welcome.
Please feel free to join us and hopefully like past members, not be part of this group for to long - for good reasons
- TTC#2 - 12+ months - M/C August '11 - PCOS - Starting 1st cycle of ClomidCaroldiem
- TTC#2 - 14+ months - M/C Oct '11 Blighted Ovum - Beautiful Michael born with wings 22nd July '12 22 weeksKezball
- TTC#3 - 3+ Years - M/C June '11 Lachlans_Mummy
- TTC#2 - 3+ years - 6 M/C including twins*LiMa*
- TTC#2 - 4+ Years - M/C Sept '10 - 6 Cycles of Clomid - all BFNLovemycanon
- TTC#2 - 5+ yearsMum Abroad
- TTC#3 - 2+ years - 1 M/C June '12 & 1 EP August '12 after using progesterone cream - currently TTC on holdNumber4please
- TTC#4 - 21+ Months - 2 M/C June '11 & July '11 - 3 x Clomid BFNs - 4 x IUI BFNs - Currently on first IVF cycleShellby
- TTC#3 - 5 Years - 4 M/Cs March '08, Feb '11, August '11 & July '12 - 6 x Clomid all BFN, Progesterone Trial - BFP but early loss. Studymuffin
- TTC#2 - 18+ Months - 2 cycles of Clomid - no response - 2 cycles of ovulation induction via injections both BFN.Alice79
- TTC #2 - 18+ Months - BFP June '11 Natural cycle before IVF - Bewitching Boy April '12Beautiful Disaster
- TTC#4 - 15+ Months - 1 M/C '09 - BFP August '11 1st Clomid Cycle - Beautiful Boy Hunter Robert 17th April '12Beep
- TTC#2 - 23+ Years - 14 x Clomid BFNs, still going on Clomid - M/C 2010 - BFP July '12 Clomid Cycle - EDD April '13Bellefin
- TTC#2 - 13+ Months - BFP April '12 Natural - Low AMH/High FSH - Gallant Girl Serafina 18th Dec '12Bex18
- TTC#2 - 12+ months - M/C May '11 Blighted Ovum - Low Ovarian Reserve - Moving to IVF soon - BFP August '12 Natural - EDD April '13BokBok
- TTC#2 - 4 Years - March '12 IVF #1 - BFN - June '12 IVF #2 - BFN - August IVF#3 - BFN, LAP Oct '12 for Endo, IVF #4 - BFP Jan '13 - EDD Oct '13Chucklebury
- TTC#2 - 2.5Years - 1 M/C - BFP October 2011 Natural - Breathtaking Boy June '12Duck-o-lah
- TTC#2 16+ months - BFP August '12 Natural with progesterone - EDD April '13HaleyW
- TTC#2 - 2+ Years - BFP January '12 IVF#2 - EDD October '12, 5 x IUI BFN's moving onto IVF - MFI, IVF #1 Oct '11 BFP but M/C Nov '11 - Benevolent Boy Eric Christopher Oct '12Izy Bee
- TTC#2 - 2+ Years - Blocked Tubes - BFP April '12 IVF #1 - EDD December '12 - Blessed Boy Nikolas Charlie 14th Dec '12*littlemircles*
- TTC#2 - 4 Years - BFP January '12 Natural - EDD Sept '12 - Graceful Girl 2/9/12 Father's DayMaximan
- TTC#2 - 21+ Months - Planning IVF Dec '11 - BFP August '11 Natural Cycle with Vit B shot - Brilliant Boy Hank Arthur Bon April 29th '12Mumalbi
- TTC #2 - 2+ Years - 1 EP & 1 M/C - BFP June '11 Natural cycle before IVF - Giggly Girl Alice Feb '12Mum_Megan
- TTC#2 - 3+ Years - 3 M/C - BFP April '11 Natural using Aspirin and SMEP - Bouncy Boy Saxon Oct '11, Early But PrefectRed Cabbage
- TTC #7 - 2+ Years - BFP April '11 Natural - Bubbly Boy L Jan '12Silver-rain
- TTC#2 - 20+ Months - BFP August '12 Natural seeing naturopath - EDD - May '13 Expecting Baby Girl - 2 M/Cs Dec '10 & Dec '11
Posted 28 September 2012 - 10:21 AM
SM - oh how I hope you are thinking wrong and it is BFP on your blood test today...but you kind of know in yourself too don't you...biggest hugs hun...know how you are feeling.
Shelby - so sorry to hear your are back on BCP...but look forward to your cruise and it is good that your DH and you are talking about the next step...I think if you can get your progesterone cream then you will be ok...you seem to have no trouble actually getting pregnant (unlike the rest of us!) but need some extra support...will they put you on something like crinone to help?
As for me...am laying a bit low while nothing is happening - trying to remove myself a bit from it all and have a break...plus I am not sure, but I think I have been found on here by somebody I rather didn't know all my business so am not saying too much. Pity we couldn't have a more private group on here!
All the best today Studymuffin - am still holding hope for you! Will pop back later.
Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:05 PM
Sorry to hear about your stalker bokbok. Probably have a couple here that have figured out who I am, but meh I don't care .... in fact probably doesn't hurt for them to know that my life isn't all sunshine and lollipops and if they get some kind of satisfaction out of that, well then I trust karma to even the score. But at the end of the day it is essential to my sanity to be able to talk to others that are going through the same thing and to know that I am not alone, that the universe just hasn't singled me out for s..ts and giggles, and to find support in the only others that could truly understand. *hugs*
The clinic still hasn't called in the official result. Why do they always leave the final results so late, I got the BT clinic first thing? Is it because there is more of a chance of you being home than work to break the bad news? All my hormone balance ones come back to me by about 2pm. I have to go to daycare to pick up DS soon, not a call I want to receive doing the daycare pick-up.
My boobs are still sore, nature is mean.
Posted 28 September 2012 - 08:06 PM
Studymuffin, sorry you are still waiting for your results. My HCG results were always quicker than my hormone ones, however my progesterone had to be sent to another town so it always takes 2 days to get that result. I was lucky once as she knew why I was there, took my blood straight out the back and came back 5 minutes later with my HCG result. One positive of living in the country and everyone knows you and wants to hope with you.
Bokbok, I understand having a break. Even though currently we are not TTC due to being on the BCP, I still like coming into this group - feels like home to me. Please don't be a stranger. I'm like studymuffin, I don't care anymore if people IRL know its me, once upon a time I didn't want anyone to know and would stress if someone did, but now most people know my history IRL after 5 years it was a secret that was getting me down and I wanted people to understand why I didn't always gush over pregnancies at work or newborns. However I understand your reasons.
Posted 29 September 2012 - 08:43 AM
Yes official negitive - recomend IVF. I've got to go back and see the FS. Need to have a chat to DH sometime about what he wants to do, I might let the 'wound' heal a little first though before we start talking about the next step.
Shellby, that's nice that they'd go make that special effort for you. Hows your son going?
Posted 29 September 2012 - 04:44 PM
So sorry Studymuffin...I've been checking on you & was so hoping you'd have good news to share...the next step (IVF) is a tough one but I think you know when you've had enough low tech fertility treatment (as they called it) and for me it was a relief to be moving on when we made the choice after 6 mths ovulation induction & IUI. Good luck with what you decide. Thinking of u. Take care all.
Posted 30 September 2012 - 10:46 AM
Sorry Studymuffin on your
. I hope the wait to see the FS is short and not to bad on your emotions. I always hated the waiting.
Hows your son going?
He is fine, we are on yearly MRIs now unless he has any changes. Because of his condition being a NTD I now take extra folate for just in case.
Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:06 AM
SM, this is unfair...I know when I found out IVF was my only option, I was devastated. The cost, the upset...everything .....but it was the hardest, yet most rewarding thing I have done. It took 2 years for DH to agree, with plenty of fights as well, and my parents helping to fund the procedures....but now that I'm 28 weeks pregnant..all that has faded, and I'm enjoying each kick....even tho I still winge a bit, I'm am forever grateful that IVF has given me the gift I was longing for....
Posted 01 October 2012 - 01:43 PM
Warning total whinge fest today.
Well it seems that my body is just refusing to participate in this cycle. Since my ultrasound on Thursday where the doc found a 10mm follie on each side, i now have just 1 on the right at 12mm. Grr and that's with an increase in dose for the last 4 days. So disappointed right now. To make maters worse my doc is away till Friday so i had to see a locum. He is however having bloods done today and repeated on Wednesday to double check everything, so for that i am great full. They have booked an ultrasound appointment for Friday which i could in no way get to fit into my schedule. Is it wrong to have to drop a full morning of clients just for 1 routine ultrasound? Right now i just want to tell them i cant have it done and go it alone till the end of the cycle. Start from scratch later. Hoping to hear from clinic re bloods this arvo.
Posted 01 October 2012 - 06:45 PM
#4please - Sorry to hear this cycle doesn't seem to be doing what it should. I hope your bloods come back fine. Can you get the U/S early in the morning before work at all?
I'm wanting to know what the hell is up with this damn BCP - I'm sick of the spotting - hello reason I'm on you is to have no spotting, no AF nothing.....wondering if maybe I should go on a different type or try holding out for another week and see if my body settles down.
Posted 05 October 2012 - 12:21 PM
Ok so we are finally ready to trigger tomorrow night for AI on Monday morning. We only have 1 follicle this time on Day 27 even after raising the dose.
RE tells me it is perfectly normal with ovaries like mine to respond differently each month but it still doesn't feel right.
I am already doubting that we will end up pregnant this month with only 1 follicle, if we couldn't do it with 3.
Posted 07 October 2012 - 11:42 PM
So sorry to hear of another BFN Studymuffin...big *hugs* I know that IVF seems daunting and scary, I know that I was, and it is certainly not a great thing to have to do but i have personally found it not as bad as I thought in my mind. Don't get me wrong I would much prefer not to have to do it but to know that I have a real chance each time is reassuring. Please do speak to your DH and FS and give it some thought. We will be here for you whatever path you choose.
number4please - good luck for tomorrow morning - I hope that one follicle is a great one for you!
Have my appointment for op on Wednesday this week, am feeling nervous but hopeful that this might be the last hurdle before getting a BFP.
Does anybody know how Haleyw is? Has she had her bub yet?
Hi to Shelby too - when do you go on your cruise?
Posted 08 October 2012 - 12:08 PM
Gee its getting quiet in here. How is everybody going?
I had my AI this morning and i am so glad its over. I was getting myself so worked up over stupid things. Trying to relax and ignore the cycle again for the next 2 weeks now. Looking at my instructions the other day i realized that the first nurse from cycle 1 wrote down the wrong date for my preg test. She marked it for 14dpo and this last one its 16dpo. No wonder I had a false positive.
Posted 08 October 2012 - 05:02 PM
Hi all - sorry it's been so long, just been really busy and I guess coming in here you do have to face the reality of things ... in life I keep myself busy so I don't have to think about it.
Not much is going on with me. DH and I had a chat, he still thinks that the emotional turmoil of going through IVF is going to be so much worse
but wants me to make an appointment for the specialist after he is back from a work trip in a couple of weeks. I was going to book the appointment with them the day I found out I got the BFN but I was cut off as they were trying to transfer me and I kind of took it as a sign. I'm really enjoying not having to worry about going for tests every second day and jabbing myself every day so I can't really say I'm ready to go back to it just yet either.
N4plz - Good luck for this TWW, I hope you get a real BFP this time.
BokBok - good luck for your op, what are they doing?
Shellby - hope the spotting has stopped for you, for what it's worth I get the same thing on the BCP ... makes me grumpy as all hell as well because I am in a constant state of PMS.
Love and baby dust all round. Hope you are all doing well.
Posted 08 October 2012 - 08:56 PM
Hi bokbok, Good luck with your op. thanks for asking after me, I'm still waiting on bub. 4 days overdue today & will be induced Friday.
Take care. Will check back with you girls soon.
Posted 09 October 2012 - 06:35 PM
Sorry I have been AWOL, working to much and coming home with headaches, so just browsing on my iPad. Finally had a day off today, so feel rested again.
#4please - I hope this 2ww goes quickly for you. Remember it only takes one to get pregnant so you still have a chance.
Bokbok - I hope tomorrow goes well for you and the op goes well also. I go on the cruise next month, so can't wait - its 1 month and 1 day now
I really need the break as I feel like the last 18 months all my time off has been for stressful things - FS appointments, then the loss in August (time off going to Brisbane to try and save it), followed by the James problems and being admitted the Mater, then time off since then has been for his appointments in Brisbane - its kinda weird as my clinic was also at the Mater just in the building next door so I see it and get a little down. Finally I'm taking time off for me
no cooking, no cleaning and no medical appointments.
Studymuffin - Its good your DH is open to IVF by suggesting making an appointment. You will find the FS will be good in explaining that emotionally your already kinda there with the drugs etc. I do understand how you feel though with no blood tests, no meds etc that is the main reason we have stopped with clinics etc - we couldn't handle it anymore. The spotting finally stopped last week, so glad I started it earlier than the cycle before the cruise, otherwise I would have been spotting on the cruise.
Haley - Good luck on Friday if your little one doesn't come earlier.
Nothing much happening here. Had kinda a sad moment with DH today, we went into target and lucky me they have moved the baby section to across from the toys, so we were walking past to look at things for the boys for Christmas when we saw a couple having trouble with a pram - had no idea how to make it layback, situp etc so we stopped and DH leaned over and said 'Here I'll show you' and showed them the handle on the back to do it etc which made them happy, we then walked away looking at each other kinda sad we would never have that shopping chance again for us. Maybe I will get a nice DIL who will let me go shopping with her once they have a baby, not one of these women I read about here who seem to think MILs who what to be active in helping are horrible and should shut up because they had their chance - if only they knew my chance was cut off early and I just want to be part of the joy.
Weight wise, going well - down 16kgs now. Had to remove my wedding ring as I nearly lost it at work. Brought new work pants today which was fun as I have gone down 2 sizes, can't wait to keep losing more.
Posted 10 October 2012 - 06:58 PM
HaleyW - good luck for your induction on Friday - hopefully bub decides to make an appearance before then for you - can't wait to hear that he/she has arrived safely!
Studymuffin - that is good that your DH is willing to take the next step towards IVF...how do you feel about it too? I know what you mean about having a break from it all...this enforced break I am on is doing me good I think and I will be ready to tackle it again in the new year.
n4p - glad your AI went well - will keep everything crossed for you that this is your lucky month!! Can't wait to hear your results and make sure you keep us updated on any symptoms!
Shelby - glad the spotting has stopped for you...you definitely do deserve your cruise and I hope you have a wonderful time!! I am jealous!! lol! That is really sad about the pram story but it was lovely of your DH to help them...you never know your turn still may come in the new year!! Don't give up hope yet! Well done on the weight loss that is wonderful! what is your secret?
Had my specialist appointment today and the doctor is so lovely. After a good chat etc he explained it all to me about what he is going to do and look for. I am booked in at this stage for the operation in less than two weeks - eeekkkk! However, I have to have my period first and as I am not on anything this month, it is a bit of a gamble to if I even ovulated this month! OR I could have and have to wait and see if by some miracle I am pregnant (YEAH right I highly doubt this is the case!) I am CD34 today and no sign of AF yet but that is not unusual for me! So will wait and see over the next week and if still no AF about Tues next week I will POAS to make sure a miracle hasn't happened!! I am sure AF will have come by then though! DR thinks that if we can remove the endometriosis then we have a good chance of a pregnancy!
I feel that after 4 long years this will make or break it so to speak...but I have a good feeling that with a bit of a cleanup I should be able to fall pregnant in the new year hopefully!! I feel like we are just sooooo close!! I have to stay positive without dreaming and hoping too, too much though!
Hope everyone is going well!
Posted 12 October 2012 - 09:35 AM
Just popping in quickly to see how HayleyW was going. Wishing you the very best of luck for the arrival of your precious bub - can't wait to hear the news!!!!
Thinking of you all as always xx
Posted 16 October 2012 - 09:02 PM
Cant wait to hear if all is well HaleyW - hopefully by now your bub is with you and you are enjoying newborn cuddles!!
How is everyone else going? It's gone too quiet in here!
Well I am on CD40 today and no sign of AF at all...would be nice if it meant something but I highly doubt it...much more likely that I haven't O'd and AF has gone missing...which is really frustrating as if AF doesn't come then I can't have my operation next Tuesday and I have to wait for AF to come which means operation will be delayed a few weeks...very annoying.
However I bought a POAS test today just to humour myself (more likely sadden!) tomorrow morning as if no AF by Friday I will have to call doctor to cancel
Why is it when you actually want AF to come she doesn't yet when you don't want her to come she won't! Evil witch!
Hope everyone else is going better xx
Posted 17 October 2012 - 01:04 PM
Bokbok - sorry to hear Af is deciding to stay away, how annoying. Maybe that HPT will be a happy thing - fingers crossed it is.
Sorry I have been quiet, not alot to say - had an emotionally weekend. We finally cleaned out the 'nursery'. For the last 5 years we have used it as a junk room, always talked about replacing the dark curtain in there and fixing the window locks so the windows opened again - but we always left it thinking once the baby is on the way we can have fun fixing those things and decorating it. On Saturday we finally cleaned the whole room out, fixed the windows and replaced the curtains with the blinds we always planned to use - Saturday night we both just stood there in the empty room and finally just cried. Dh cried that it was meant to be his little girl's room, I cried as this was where this would go and that, we just cried because it really meant it was over and we had to move on. Until that moment I hadn't even noticed how we both left that room alone and did nothing with it as it was our hope, and now that hope is gone.
Now to spend this week filling the room up with everything from the study so our eldest can have the current study as his bedroom - and I can keep my craft room. Its just currently heartbreaking doing it all and looking at the empty room waiting to be filled, to know its reason was to be filled with baby stuff and now that won't happen.
Sorry for my downer post, just where I am at the moment. Hopefully Haley will be back soon to update us with happy news.
Posted 17 October 2012 - 01:49 PM
Oh Shelby - sorry to hear about that...I know exactly what you mean - we have a room exactly the same - it has all the baby stuff just dumped in there (and other junk) and the door is closed and we hardly go in there unless really necessary - I keep thinking the same - it will be fixed up once we are expecting. So I do know how you feel...it is probably good though that you have cleaned it up and that you and DH had a good cry...but I am sorry that it made you upset. *hugs* to you xx
HaleyW - where are you!!
Studymuffin - how are you going hun? What is happening with you?
littlemiracles - any news yet? When is your testing day?
Well as for me...still no AF...did a HPT this morning and it was a BFN
as I expected. I called the sr's rooms and receptionist spoke to dr and called me back to say if no AF by Sunday then to take another HPT and if it is negative then surgery can still go ahead on Tuesday as planned...but to call if positive. I really don't think it will be a BFP on weekend so looks like surgery will go ahead on Tuesday. Only thing is though, I had a few pains last Friday on CD36 and am concerned I just O'd late in which case AF would be due until another week...doctor wants to make sure I am not pregnant before doing surgery but what would my chances be! I just wish they would do a blood test to see if I had actually O'd or not but he won't. Should I go to GP to ask for one or just leave it and do HPT on Sunday etc?
It is stressing me out!!
Posted 18 October 2012 - 07:30 PM
Shellby - what an emotional experience for you both, I hope you get to turn it back into a nursery one day. I'm another one who has the nursery room morphing into junk room situation and also find it painful to think it's probably not going to get used again. Actually I've thought of painting it black on a couple of my more darker days. Probably not a helpful suggestion though
Congratulations on the weight loss, you are doing so well.
Bokbok - Hopefully your body sorts itself out soon. Would be wonderful if you were pregnant. You always hear stories like that - people go to IVF appointment not knowing they are already pregnant etc be nice to have that kind of story happen to someone I know. Honestly, I would just wait until Sunday and do a HPT. Usually takes my GP a good 3 days to get blood test results back anyway.
Nothing is happening with me. I think I might just try weightloss and TCM for a while. I can't take any more intervention and disappointment at the moment.
Posted 19 October 2012 - 01:59 PM
O Shellby, wise sage of the SI thread .... how long after EWCM do you 'O'?
Swear I just got ewcm, which at CD 20 is very unusual for my body (usually I'm a CD40 girl). DH arrives back from his trip early hours of this morning. May have to give him a very warm welcome. When I undergo treatment I don't get that, natural cycles plenty, treatment cycles none - which could be a factor in why they are failing.
Posted 19 October 2012 - 06:59 PM
Studymuffin - Its great to hear you have some EWCM. When you ovulate with EWCM can be different for all, but not by alot. For me I have EWCM until I actually ovulate and then dry up right away. Other women will have EWCM for about an extra 12 or so hours before drying up. You can have EWCM for up to 5 days before ovulating also - again each woman is different, mine is about 3 days - every so often my PCOS will cause it to go for 5 days as my body forces itself to release the egg. Best thing to do if you can keep it up is BD each day you have EWCM until you dry up - hopefully it will only be 3 days. However do remember you have normal long cycles, so this might be your body gearing up to ovulate and then not, so if you get any more EWCM during your 2WW also BD just in case.
As for when on medicated cycles, one of the side effects is less EWCM and sometimes none at all - very common, not great but is the side effect. That's why some women try that cough medinice thing which is meant to help increase your CM.
Good luck, maybe this will be it
Posted 21 October 2012 - 06:04 PM
I'm hoping everything is okay with HaleyW and she is enjoying her newborn cuddles so much - starting to worry since its been a week.
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