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#1 Mik25

Posted 14 September 2012 - 12:03 PM

Immediately after my baby's 2 month vaccinations yesterday (not including rotavirus) she was floppy - staring off into space, eyes not following the sound of my voice. It felt like she'd turned into a vegetable, or was drunk - the brightness and alertness wasn't there in her eyes. She was like that all day. It has scared the hell out of me. She is more responsive today, although still very sleepy. I wonder if anyone can tell me whether they experienced this and whether the eventual outcome was OK.

When you ring the Health helpline they said they get calls about this, but they have no idea what the outcome is because they have no follow up with people. I spoke to my GP on the phone and she said she's never heard of this happening. I am taking her in for a check up this afternoon but don't feel confident that the doc will know what is wrong.

I am finding it hard to find anyone who can tell me why she reacted that way, whether I need to worry, and whether this means she shouldn't have future vaccinations. Please, can anyone further down this road shed any information on their own experiences.

#2 Felix101

Posted 14 September 2012 - 12:23 PM

Definitely sounds like something best discussed with your GP. If your concerned about their response, maybe it's worth seeking a second opinion or asking for a referral to a paed.



#3 lozoodle

Posted 14 September 2012 - 12:25 PM

I don't know about the floppy / dazed part but my DD2 was SO sleepy and slept pretty much all day after hers at 6 weeks. I just thought I'd lucked out and had a nap too!

Speak to the GP if you are worried original.gif

#4 BabeBlossom

Posted 14 September 2012 - 12:29 PM

Do you have a large children's hospital close by? It could be worth taking her down to their ED and seeing what they think because if your GP hasn't seen it before it is much more likely that they might have.

#5 Natttmumm

Posted 14 September 2012 - 12:37 PM

I would go to the hospital about the floopy dazed part! That would worry me.

Mine we irritable and very tired after the injections and always came down with a slight temperature the next day (37.8) approx. Not floppy and dazed though.

#6 Megs25

Posted 14 September 2012 - 12:45 PM

PLEASE take you baby IMMEDIATELY to the nearest children's hospital.

This is called a Hypertonic Hyperesponsive Episode. It can be very serious.

I know this because my daughter had the same thing after her 8 week immunisation and we are very lucky she is with us today. It is most likely a reaction to the Pertussis vaccine.

PLEASE GO NOW!

#7 CallMeProtart

Posted 14 September 2012 - 12:50 PM

I would take her to emergency. I think floppiness would be something I'd always want to get checked out at emergency for.

#8 bikingbubs

Posted 14 September 2012 - 12:50 PM

With a floppy dazed baby, I would be making my way to hospital ASAP.  Especially if a GP hadnt heard of it before.

#9 MrsNorthman

Posted 14 September 2012 - 12:59 PM

ED immediately.

#10 Mik25

Posted 14 September 2012 - 01:06 PM

She is not floppy and dazed today though, and I am booked to see GP at 5pm...


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#11 Megs25

Posted 14 September 2012 - 01:11 PM

She NEEDS to be checked over by a paediatrician NOW.

Please just go. It caused my daughters brain to swell. We were advised by the immunisation specialist at RCH that she was never to have it again.

PLEASE take her in, she needs to be looked at by an expert that knows what they are looking for.

A GP that doesn't know what HHE is and what to look for has NO business giving babies immunisations.



#12 Megs25

Posted 14 September 2012 - 01:12 PM

It also needs to be reported to VAERS and put on the database. Take your blue book so they can record the batch number the vaccine came from.

#13 Mik25

Posted 14 September 2012 - 01:16 PM

ok thanks guys

#14 Wise Old Owl

Posted 14 September 2012 - 01:17 PM

I would have taken my baby to the nearest hospital yesterday so definatley would not be waiting for a 5pm appointment today!!!

Where did you have the vaccinations done?  Every time I have had one of my children vaccinated we have always waited atleast 5-10mins before leaving as we were always told if there is going to be a serious reaction it is generally immediate.

Edited by OneBlueStar, 14 September 2012 - 01:18 PM.


#15 premmie_29weeks

Posted 14 September 2012 - 01:28 PM

Just go to emergency they are better equipped to deal with any adverse reaction. With a 6 weeker they would pretty much see immediately...and no it doesn't mean you should avoid future vaccines j


#16 Megs25

Posted 14 September 2012 - 01:32 PM

QUOTE (premmie_29weeks @ 14/09/2012, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just go to emergency they are better equipped to deal with any adverse reaction. With a 6 weeker they would pretty much see immediately...and no it doesn't mean you should avoid future vaccines j


Actually it means you'll probably be advised to avoid or delay a number of vaccines. We were referred to one of the top immunisation specialists at RCH in Melbourne, and they definitely advised against it, and some of the others as well.

It's something that needs to be discussed with a specialist though in regards to each babies circumstances.

#17 premmie_29weeks

Posted 14 September 2012 - 02:15 PM

Sorry I sounded condescending! I meant it doesn't necessarily mean vaccinations will be delayed really depends on the cause of what's happend and why

#18 Natttmumm

Posted 14 September 2012 - 02:42 PM

I would still go the ER today and explain what has happened. He might need tests or observation. Definately consideration for the next lot of needles. A friend of mine, her baby had a different reaction and they gave the next lot of needles in the ER.

#19 Mik25

Posted 17 September 2012 - 10:47 PM

Hi all.

I went to ED and Megs25 was spot on - it was HHE. The initial emergency doc hadn't heard of it and so I really had to insist that they look further into what happened. The doc we ended up seeing knew more about this issue.

Apparently there are no known ongoing issues after an HHE which is a big relief.

We had a few nights in hospital being monitored and bub is nearly back to her normal self now. We will be seeing immunisation clinic to discuss how to go fwd from here in terms of future vaccinations.

Also the doctors are lodging a report with the adverse events registry (not sure of the official name) and I also made a report as a consumer.

Thanks for the concern everyone.




#20 Mik25

Posted 17 September 2012 - 10:51 PM

BTW I did stick around for the required 15 mins after the needles but I was left alone in the room. The event freaked me out so when the nurse returned I told her about it but she didn't even examine my baby, so I assumed it must not be anything to worry about. I will need to have a chat with the practice manager about that and also the doctors from the hospital are sending reports to the clinic so they can learn from this as well.

I learned that the uneasy feeling in my gut was something I should have acted on, and not assumed the medical staff knew better than me.

#21 EBeditor

Posted 17 September 2012 - 10:53 PM

Thanks for the update OP. How scary. Well done for pushing for more answers in hospital and I'm glad your daughter is OK

#22 1/2aDozen

Posted 17 September 2012 - 10:54 PM

Wow.  So glad you took her in and she is ok now.  Hope she continues in good health.

Good for you MEGS25 for being so insistant.

#23 Danzie

Posted 17 September 2012 - 10:57 PM

Glad your baby is ok OP.
Good on the PP who alerted you!!! Big win for EB!
What a stressful thing to go through.

#24 EBeditor

Posted 17 September 2012 - 11:05 PM

For anyone who is concerned about their baby's health at any time of the day or night, you can call Health Direct who will advise you on whether to go to hospital or treat at home:
http://www.healthdirect.org.au/

If you are seriously concerned though, then the hospital is probably the safest bet.

#25 Mik25

Posted 17 September 2012 - 11:16 PM

Yes if there is ever any doubt - go to your ED!!

Edited by Mik25, 17 September 2012 - 11:26 PM.





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